Now you are changing subjects.
Lets go back to the topic we were discussing before moving on to something new.
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No.
The Old Horde was immensely different than the New Horde.
Their leaders switching around now is nothing more than the faction going different directions on the leaders desire.
The Alliance of Lordaeron fell apart almost entirely. Only really Stormwind and Ironforge can truly (maybe the gnomes) claim to have been part of it. Hell the Wildhammer had only thrown in their full support to the current Alliance when Cata hit.
The Grand Alliance was formed from its ashes and acquired the Night Elves. It was missing most of the human nations that had made up the Alliance of Lordaeron.
Varian and Anduin are like the Hordes leaders merely different directions.
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How is it changing subjects its either the same alliance who does these things that are no better than previous horde actions or they aren’t making them a more honorable alliance under anduin
We are discussing how changing leaders in a country or organization means that this entity is being set to zero.
Basically. New Leader = New organization.
This is YOUR argument. Now defend it or admit you were wrong.
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No i said new iteration of the organization
So each time a company changes CEOs that means they should issue new stocks and bonds because its a new company?
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In cases when the core direction and or value of the company changes they infact do this. Examples are woolworths 1981, apple 1990 and bidvest as recent as 2007
So in 1990 when Apple changed CEOs they were no longer considered the same company before 1990? This was automatic? Could you source that because I want to see the law that allows all companies to default on all their obligations with zero repercussion by simply changing their CEO.
Thanks.
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But thats not whats happening.
Varian and Anduin lead fairly similarly to each other especially taking late Varian into account. He started more willing to fight but eventually turned from that path.
Thrall lead with honor, Garrosh lead with fury, Sylvanas… tricked you all.
This doesn’t change what the Alliance is or what the Horde is. They’re the same factions. The Same countries effectively.
OH and to be on topic. The Night Elves got done dirty, but I have hope for Blizz to give us something back in later expacs.
EDIT: Also while we’re kinda in the realm… the Alliance started WoW lead by a council of its leaders, it wasn’t until Cata that the High King position was made, and Varian took it. Anduin inherited it.
The Horde now has a council and the Alliance has its High King. They’ve switched places. 
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You are talking to a guy who thinks there have been 45 separate United States since 1776.
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I never said it gave then a default out of obligations or made them a new company did I?
funny but thats your argument.
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No body wants the treatment that either horde or alliance get. We both get crap stories… I don’t see too many alliance players asking to be comical villains.
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Tewa is a pro at missing the point. There are three constants in life…
- Grass is green.
- Sky is blue.
- Tewa missed the point.
But seriously…when alliance say “we want to be treated like the horde”, what they’re saying is that they want their faction characters to move story forward instead of being 100% reactionary all of the time.
The “go crazy” thing that the horde does all the time? That’s what happens when the devs can’t figure out what to do with you, but feel stuck because you’re all they have at the moment. It’s a side-effect of their poor pacing in character development outside of the limitations of a single faction when combined with how much time they can spend telling story over delivering game.
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Wrong.
What about autumn and cloudy weather?
You should use taxes and death instead.
Its really not. My argument is the alliance calling for blood for something that no longer exists and would be no different to horde calling for blood against what the alliance has done. Do we do this? No because we know its a different alliance now to what it was before. You might even say a different iteration of the alliance
HEY GUYS! We changed CEO! So that means the debt we owe you no longer exists!
Thanks for doing business with us. Tata!
That sir. Is your argument.
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My goto would have been the alt-right and hitler.
Your example is better. Less polarizing.
Maybe if the Horde would pull out of Ashenvale and maybe feel sorry at least for what happened we’d care as much about who leads the Horde.
We lost most of our people, all of our lands, and got very little for it. Certainly we got little back by the end.
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Blizzard is incapable to create or write anything good. They do not have an imaginative or creative bone in the whole team. The current team so interested in hyper kid style Farmville style wow. It is sad. Look at the attack on a neutral city. They had no interest in joining the horde. They just using horde to get rid of the king by daughter. The alliance spies would have known this. Despite that, they attack the city. Ok goomer.
Then the next patch they chase down Nathanos to a trap. Then alliance forget him and join horde for reasons? They then let an old god free. Then decide to join the rebellion. If read the pdf it explains some. The reason is still dumb.
Back to OP post. Besides most of what happened to them was brought on by themselves. What reading I try to do I found out that this: storing arms, stockpile azurite, harbouring a known criminal and conducting experiments on forsaken and blood elves and building war machines. That alone would warrant a counter-attack. Then the constant attack on orcs and goblins. While the attacks are there to save a forest. Horde does not see it that way. The whole plot looks like something you came upon the toilet.
Add to this problem is that they had put civilians in the cities. The key question is why they were there in the first place? They knew the war was coming. They had limited portals in use. Could have sent them to somewhere else. Instead, they decided to keep them there for some unknown reason. Now you have dead civils. It’s just too much like something a kindergartener would write. You don’t need revenge against the horde. You need revenge against this horrible garage they gave us.