The newest set of nerfs for Ret

Classes Paladin
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Paladin

Greater Judgement - Judgement now causes the target to take 20% increased damage from your next Holy Power ability (was 25%).
Seal of Crusader increases Holy Damage taken by 3/6% (was 5/10%).
Divine Purpose increases the damage of your next holy damage spender by 15% (was 20%).
Zealot’s Paragon extension reduced to 0.5 seconds (was 1 second).

Retribution
Templar’s Verdict damage reduced by 35%.
Final Verdict damage reduced by 35%
Zeal - Judgment now causes your next 2 auto attacks to occur 30% faster (was your next 3).
Ashes to Dust now 20% chance to reset Wake of Ashes instead of Blade of Justice (was 35%).
Execution Sentence deals 10% of damage done (was 20%).
Templar’s Vindication changed to a 15% chance of a 10/20% Templar’s Verdict (was 15/30% chance of a 15/30% Templar’s Verdict).

They targeted the nerfs wrong tbh… and they didn’t just use a nerf hammer, they used a planetary devastation type of attack. :joy:

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And our boy crusader strike couldnt even get a 10% buff, truly tragic.

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Generally curious what they’re doing with the spec now, like lmao.

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It still does low damage compared to the other spells, we need another round of nerfs please.

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Lmao sums up my feelings exactly. xd

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been lurking in the hammer of wrath discord today… the meltdown is real

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I’ve been ret since tbc and never been there.

How do i join? lmao i wanna lurk a bit

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https: //discord. com/invite/hammerofwrath

get rid of the spaces

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Damn i have like 1k messages to read since the nerfs news hit the discord.

Gonna be a fun read, thanks a lot!

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CAN WE PLEASE HAVE TRANSPERENCY! We want to be relevant!!!

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Transparency is for classes the Devs care about.

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I think that the recent nerf has been very transparent as to what they want to do with ret. I believe I heard a “TO THE GROUND!” in the distance coming form the blizz HQ.

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Well we already have everything on the ground with the consecration so how about the employees who nerfed us go to the ground of the headquarters and find new jobs!

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The Consecrated Blade of the devs broke the ground we were standing on as well with those proc nerfs.

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Bro divine purpose is already nerfed in pvp what is it gonna be now? Plus 5% healing and damage?

These nerfs are in the wrong skills and talents ashes to dust was already bad at 35% whos gonna pick this overnerfed talent at 20%???

I am truly truly amazed at how bad they devs are

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The devs need to all come together and just focus on ret paladin. Then everything else cause at this point they need to be retaught what the ret paladin is all about.

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Like how you design a class that you don’t know how to fix. Thats laughable. You really got to hate the ret community if this is your version of fixing the ret pally

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Just want to add that Ashes to Dust has had 4 nerfs this Alpha/Beta:

  • from 50% to 35%
  • Blade of Wrath nerfed making proc chance 25% lower total - so basically that 35% proc chance is 26.25% compared to live
  • Ashes to Dust nerfed to 20% - so basically 15% from the 50% of live
  • Zeal nerfed by 33% which will further reduce Art of War procs… idk how much this means in the end

Final result:
- Ashes to Dust going from 50% live to sub 15% comfortably comparatively from Live.

Great gameplay changes!
I’ve had Wake of Ashes not resetting during its natural cooldown on live.
I can’t imagine how bad the resets will be with 20% chance of a 18% autoattack chance.

Nvm a calculator helped me, it’s 3.6% chance per autoattack to reset Wake of Ashes… WOW, simply wow…
Edited this as i had calculated from the new autoattack chance to compare, instead of the old one.

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