Maybe we're all misinterpreting the sort of feedback they're looking for?
I enjoy ugly sweaters and Vietnamese food.
If we could infiltrate BlizzCon somehow...hmmm...
Pretty sure that's where 99.9% of their attention is focused now. Anyone on this thread going? Get us noticed during Q&A? Kinda sounds like a job when you're trying to have fun I know but....anyone going? :)
Pretty sure that's where 99.9% of their attention is focused now. Anyone on this thread going? Get us noticed during Q&A? Kinda sounds like a job when you're trying to have fun I know but....anyone going? :)
10/17/2018 03:43 PMPosted by DlaciabiaMaybe we're all misinterpreting the sort of feedback they're looking for?
I enjoy ugly sweaters and Vietnamese food.
I personally like loose t-shirts and beef chow-fun slathered in gravy.
Ok this is a huge issue three months on but can anyways tell me what specifically in the Guild Control options for Officers it shows a checkmark for Guildchat Speak. What is this function for? I can't find any type of Guide or FAQ or explanation for this specific control.
I completely agree the UI is limited and doesn't give an opportunity to enrich the guild leadership/member experience the way it used to. Change can be great but only if it positively improves the overall outcome but this sure doesn't seem to be that.
I completely agree the UI is limited and doesn't give an opportunity to enrich the guild leadership/member experience the way it used to. Change can be great but only if it positively improves the overall outcome but this sure doesn't seem to be that.
The absolute best thing that can be done is for Blizzard to see this thread acknowledge the issue as an issue and put it on the priority list of items to hotfix asap. Anything less is frankly not acceptable and will cause an increased risk of guilds disbanding and subscribers and token purchaser to simply walk away.
Here's some song lyrics for ya Blizz.
No change of lyrics is need.
Mostly...
I'll leave those few changes to them who know how
In the meantime:
You keep saying you got something for me
Something you call love but confess
You've been a'messin' where you shouldn't 've been a'messin'
And now someone else is getting all your best
These boots are made for walking
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
You keep lyin' when you oughta be truthin'
You keep losing when you oughta not bet
You keep samin' when you oughta be a'changin'
Now what's right is right but you ain't been right yet
These boots are made for walking
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
You keep playing where you shouldn't be playing
And you keep thinking that you'll never get burnt (HAH)
I just found me a brand new box of matches (YEAH)
And what he knows you ain't had time to learn
These boots are made for walking,
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
Are you ready, boots? Start walkin'
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10/18/2018 04:54 AMPosted by DruunahThe absolute best thing that can be done is for Blizzard to see this thread acknowledge the issue as an issue and put it on the priority list of items to hotfix asap. Anything less is frankly not acceptable and will cause an increased risk of guilds disbanding and subscribers and token purchaser to simply walk away.
Here's some song lyrics for ya Blizz.
No change of lyrics is need.
Mostly...
I'll leave those few changes to them who know how
In the meantime:
You keep saying you got something for me
Something you call love but confess
You've been a'messin' where you shouldn't 've been a'messin'
And now someone else is getting all your best
These boots are made for walking
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
You keep lyin' when you oughta be truthin'
You keep losing when you oughta not bet
You keep samin' when you oughta be a'changin'
Now what's right is right but you ain't been right yet
These boots are made for walking
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
You keep playing where you shouldn't be playing
And you keep thinking that you'll never get burnt (HAH)
I just found me a brand new box of matches (YEAH)
And what he knows you ain't had time to learn
These boots are made for walking,
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
Are you ready, boots? Start walkin'
What have I done...Mwahahahahaha!!!
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Bump...
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4 months later.
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Nothing is going to change. Why you guys even keep bumping this thread is beyond me. The only reason they even upped the allowed post count on this thread is so you keep posting here instead of dozens of different threads.
Bump!
Honestly, i do not really think anything but it saving chat is really any better than what we had before.
But it lags out the first time i open it, That did not happen before the change.
So i think it was just a change, that made the entire thing worse.
But it lags out the first time i open it, That did not happen before the change.
So i think it was just a change, that made the entire thing worse.
10/18/2018 10:39 AMPosted by VenjinWhat have I done...Mwahahahahaha!!!
I was only dipping my toes into the world of song parody.
I'll leave all (most) future attempts at musical humor to the pros.
;)
10/18/2018 12:02 PMPosted by IsthranstaulWhy you guys even keep bumping this thread is beyond me.
We want our guild control back.
Here is a disappointed but optimistic poster (from page 37):
I would like to think the fix will include innovation. It's the only explanation I can think of for why it's taken so long. Well, not the only explanation, but I'm an optimist, too (most of the time).07/28/2018 10:54 PMPosted by KohmetJust finished our guild planning session for BFA. This directly impacted our planning for ranks although bank permissions seem to still be intact which was a bonus. One of several issues that popped up was the inability delegate who can create guild events on the calendar along with some issues about voice channels and communities tying back to the guild.
I am thinking back to the Blizzcon 2017 systems panel where the changes were first covered by Matt Goss. I was really excited at the time because I thought the new system would bring enhancements and greater functionality to the guild system instead of stripping away what little, old functionality we had at the time.
Here's to you old guild system!
/libation
Hopefully we'll see some innovation spring from this opportunity.
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Not gonna make this thread 100 like this!
Let's go people! :)
Let's go people! :)
No it was not a good idea. Now it is harder than ever to know who to trust with officer powers because i can't pick and choose who should have what power!
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10/18/2018 12:02 PMPosted by IsthranstaulNothing is going to change. Why you guys even keep bumping this thread is beyond me. The only reason they even upped the allowed post count on this thread is so you keep posting here instead of dozens of different threads.
If you don't get why we bump this thread, why are you here?
I'm here because I want control of my guild back.
And dozens of different threads in the forum are not helpful--what is helpful is making sure this thread is visible. Everywhere.
- Every time I touch my guild controls for any reason, I log a ticket in-game--and I reference this thread.
Every time there's a Q&A from Ion, I reference this thread.
Every time I there's a patch or hotfix that causes Blizz to be active on twitter, or even when I'm just on twitter--I tweet Blizzard and the devs, and reference this thread.
My guild, officers to initiates, reference this thread.
In any community I'm active in... I draw attention to this thread.
There is a unanimous consensus here. There are miles of feedback here. There is surprising lack of tangential wandering here.
That's why we keep posting here.
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Wow almost 100 pages and still no change in the grouping of officer functions. This is beyond ridiculous! So many good ideas have been posted here ...Blizzard, PLEASE listen to us
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As original and ongoing GM of a guild that's been active on the same server since 2007, I want to put my name down on this forum to beg Blizzard to take some action in regards to the many comments in this long thread.
I am also very unhappy with the new Guild UI and elements of WoW guild structure. The new permissions have caused a lot of contention and confusion in the guild and has basically tied my hands on who I can promote to officer but without the game's official "Officer" rank. It seems the regular or new members have more authority than an officer in that regard; they can change their own notes but officers cannot. A lot of players do not have authenticators, so I did not want to make that mandatory. Currently, my alts are in the 2nd rank and officers 3rd, but do they do not seem to have much more power or privileges than raiders or other members. To make them official officer rank, that would give them the same abilities as the me: Full access to the guild bank and ability to delete people's messages, calendar events, notes, guild messages, kick people from voice chat, etc., but most important the ability to remove guildies. For me, that is unacceptable. I wish to reserve the action to remove for the GM only, and only when it is warranted. For now, we made a "Community" chat channel for Officer Chat as a workaround, but it is not ideal and does not address other issues.
I also want GMs to be able to control members' public notes; we use them to include spec and item level so we know who to invite to raids or other events, to list their alt names, and so they do not use offensive language in their notes as sometimes happens. While you can put information in the Officer Note, you cannot sort by that nor can the unofficial "officers" see it at this point. I should be able to choose who can do what by checking or unchecking a box in the rank tab.
As some have mentioned, we have seen few changes in Guild perks and rewards since we first labored to level our guilds from 1 to 25. For bigger guilds, that was not so difficult and happened fast, but for smaller guilds like ours at the time it took almost a year. It took a lot of teamwork and collaboration, and it meant something to be a "Level 25 guild" and it gave us grand things like pets, mounts, heirlooms, recipes, and the fabulous "mass summon", which was later taken away. Now, everyone has a Level 25 guild regardless of size or achievements along with the same old perks from old expansions. There should be some incentive for players "exalted" with their guild and for GMs that maintain active guilds with active rosters, more so for those that stick around on dying realms rather than relocating the entire guild to another server as many have done, thereby making a low pop realm even smaller.
I ask that Blizzard/Blue please read this thread and give the community an answer as to how the Guild UI and structure in game will be fixed, and hopefully sooner than later. Please give guild control back to the guild masters? Otherwise, what is the point?
I am also very unhappy with the new Guild UI and elements of WoW guild structure. The new permissions have caused a lot of contention and confusion in the guild and has basically tied my hands on who I can promote to officer but without the game's official "Officer" rank. It seems the regular or new members have more authority than an officer in that regard; they can change their own notes but officers cannot. A lot of players do not have authenticators, so I did not want to make that mandatory. Currently, my alts are in the 2nd rank and officers 3rd, but do they do not seem to have much more power or privileges than raiders or other members. To make them official officer rank, that would give them the same abilities as the me: Full access to the guild bank and ability to delete people's messages, calendar events, notes, guild messages, kick people from voice chat, etc., but most important the ability to remove guildies. For me, that is unacceptable. I wish to reserve the action to remove for the GM only, and only when it is warranted. For now, we made a "Community" chat channel for Officer Chat as a workaround, but it is not ideal and does not address other issues.
I also want GMs to be able to control members' public notes; we use them to include spec and item level so we know who to invite to raids or other events, to list their alt names, and so they do not use offensive language in their notes as sometimes happens. While you can put information in the Officer Note, you cannot sort by that nor can the unofficial "officers" see it at this point. I should be able to choose who can do what by checking or unchecking a box in the rank tab.
As some have mentioned, we have seen few changes in Guild perks and rewards since we first labored to level our guilds from 1 to 25. For bigger guilds, that was not so difficult and happened fast, but for smaller guilds like ours at the time it took almost a year. It took a lot of teamwork and collaboration, and it meant something to be a "Level 25 guild" and it gave us grand things like pets, mounts, heirlooms, recipes, and the fabulous "mass summon", which was later taken away. Now, everyone has a Level 25 guild regardless of size or achievements along with the same old perks from old expansions. There should be some incentive for players "exalted" with their guild and for GMs that maintain active guilds with active rosters, more so for those that stick around on dying realms rather than relocating the entire guild to another server as many have done, thereby making a low pop realm even smaller.
I ask that Blizzard/Blue please read this thread and give the community an answer as to how the Guild UI and structure in game will be fixed, and hopefully sooner than later. Please give guild control back to the guild masters? Otherwise, what is the point?
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