It needs to be more compact so they can fit a second "Shop E-Store" button in the main UI.
Continuing my read-through:
Here's some more excellent feedback (still on page 27) along with a link to even more feedback. You know, because Blizz said they needed feedback. (Nah, I'm not getting sarcastic. Really, I'm not. Well, maybe just a tad...)
Here's some more excellent feedback (still on page 27) along with a link to even more feedback. You know, because Blizz said they needed feedback. (Nah, I'm not getting sarcastic. Really, I'm not. Well, maybe just a tad...)
07/25/2018 02:12 PMPosted by SaraDaily bump contribution. I've already made a very lengthy response explaining my reasons behind disliking these changes.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20765907165?page=12#post-231
My solution would honestly be to roll back all guild admin changes entirely and give us the ability to cherry pick what we want our members to be able to do. While my guild is pretty social when it comes to chatter, I'm already seeing a decrease in attendance for various social activities and it's heartbreaking. People want to do things, but they tend to feel bad about bugging officers or myself to set it up for them. Or they try to make things on their own and only a few people see it because it was made as a community event and not everyone feels the need to join the community because we already have a guild.
I understand that Blizzard wants to push their community agenda, and I don't think that communities are an inherently bad idea because they do have their place. But they quite simply do not replace a guild itself nor should they be trying to replace guilds. I can make a community because me and 20 other people have a love for Bob Ross but that doesn't mean it in any way replaces what I have with my guild. It honestly feels like Blizzard is trying to find a way to shoehorn in the idea of linkshells from FFXIV into the WoW social setting but they did a really poor job of it. And instead of actually separating it, as is done with guilds (or Free Companies as they're called in FFXIV) and linkshells, they just tried to fold the entire system together into one buggy and convoluted mess.
Please consider reverting these changes, Blizzard. Even if you wont budge on the work put into the consolidated social UI, give us back control of our guilds. My guild members know that I'm not the one restricting them and they understand. And even though my officers are extremely active and giving in my guild, your supposed streamlined admin functions have created a hard dividing line between "important" guild functions and "unimportant" ones. All of my guild members are important to me, as are all of their contributions. Please don't take that away from them.
Suggestion: Listen to Fumel.
How we'd use it: By implementing all the noted changes, we'd acknowledge that you're listening instead of making crass comments and trying to work theme songs into our complaints.
How we'd use it: By implementing all the noted changes, we'd acknowledge that you're listening instead of making crass comments and trying to work theme songs into our complaints.
We've been cheated by you since the major patch
So we have made up our minds, and have an itch to scratch.
Look at you now, will you ever learn?
We don't know how but we suddenly lost control
There's a fire burning within our souls
Just one look and we can tell this is broke
Give us news and please don't say you misspoke.
Whoa-whoa.
Mamma mia, here we go again,
My my, how can we convince you?
Mamma mia, does it show again,
My my, isn't a response past due?
Yes, this threads been extended,
But your kind words have ended
Why, why did you ever let this go?
Mamma mia, now I really know
My my, how could you just up and go.
So we have made up our minds, and have an itch to scratch.
Look at you now, will you ever learn?
We don't know how but we suddenly lost control
There's a fire burning within our souls
Just one look and we can tell this is broke
Give us news and please don't say you misspoke.
Whoa-whoa.
Mamma mia, here we go again,
My my, how can we convince you?
Mamma mia, does it show again,
My my, isn't a response past due?
Yes, this threads been extended,
But your kind words have ended
Why, why did you ever let this go?
Mamma mia, now I really know
My my, how could you just up and go.
He's singing Abba, Blizz. Have a heart!
Fumel
I am venting the frustrations we all feel as slighted Wow customers at being screwed by Blizzard and then almost completely ignored for so long.
Several pages back I made a post mentioning your contributions to this post as I think they're helpful.
I feel that my own posts are helpful as well. It's my sincere hope that by my reminding Blizzard every couple of pages that I as a guild leader have kept my word and not gone away nor forgotten about this matter. (I think in their corporate arrogance they hope we all do go away and forget) In the process that "bumps" the post. So I type bump)
I am speaking for myself, my guild family, (and I hope the guild's of many others as well)
Perhaps we all take differing approaches, but we're all on the same side, and we want the same thing.
Now of only Blizz would at least throw us a bone...
I am venting the frustrations we all feel as slighted Wow customers at being screwed by Blizzard and then almost completely ignored for so long.
Several pages back I made a post mentioning your contributions to this post as I think they're helpful.
I feel that my own posts are helpful as well. It's my sincere hope that by my reminding Blizzard every couple of pages that I as a guild leader have kept my word and not gone away nor forgotten about this matter. (I think in their corporate arrogance they hope we all do go away and forget) In the process that "bumps" the post. So I type bump)
I am speaking for myself, my guild family, (and I hope the guild's of many others as well)
Perhaps we all take differing approaches, but we're all on the same side, and we want the same thing.
Now of only Blizz would at least throw us a bone...
Agreed.10/01/2018 06:46 PMPosted by DruunahFumel
I am venting the frustrations we all feel as slighted Wow customers at being screwed by Blizzard and then almost completely ignored for so long.
Several pages back I made a post mentioning your contributions to this post as I think they're helpful.
I feel that my own posts are helpful as well. It's my sincere hope that by my reminding Blizzard every couple of pages that I as a guild leader have kept my word and not gone away nor forgotten about this matter. (I think in their corporate arrogance they hope we all do go away and forget) In the process that "bumps" the post. So I type bump)
I am speaking for myself, my guild family, (and I hope the guild's of many others as well)
Perhaps we all take differing approaches, but we're all on the same side, and we want the same thing.
Now of only Blizz would at least throw us a bone...
I'm just paranoid, I guess. I'm afraid they'll use any excuse to shut this down. Of course, that would assume they're actually reading the thread. I'm beginning to have my doubts about that.
In the spirit of Brewfest, I raise my mug. Here's to guilds and better communication. May they both grow and prosper.
...84 pages later.
HEY BLIZZARD!
YOUR COMMUNICATION SKILLS ARE LACKING!
WAIT A MINUTE...
THEY SUCK!
YES I'M YELLING. CAUSE MAYBE YOU'RE DEAF.
NO BLIZZCON SUB FROM ME THIS YEAR. YOU'VE NOT EARNED IT.
-A BEYOND PISSED GM WHO HAS BEEN THERE FOR YOU SINCE CLASSIC BETA
YOUR COMMUNICATION SKILLS ARE LACKING!
WAIT A MINUTE...
THEY SUCK!
YES I'M YELLING. CAUSE MAYBE YOU'RE DEAF.
NO BLIZZCON SUB FROM ME THIS YEAR. YOU'VE NOT EARNED IT.
-A BEYOND PISSED GM WHO HAS BEEN THERE FOR YOU SINCE CLASSIC BETA
BTW GUYS
THEY IGNORE THIS ON TWITTER TOO. NO POINT YELLING AT THEM THERE EITHER. BUT GO AHEAD AND TRY.
THEY IGNORE THIS ON TWITTER TOO. NO POINT YELLING AT THEM THERE EITHER. BUT GO AHEAD AND TRY.
lol blizz dont give af
Yo. Update this garbage in 8.1. No reason for Guilds to stay like this.
I'll even take and angry CM swearing at me and thank them kindly for it if they do it while giving me an answer on this.
10/01/2018 10:45 PMPosted by SevanBTW GUYS
THEY IGNORE THIS ON TWITTER TOO. NO POINT YELLING AT THEM THERE EITHER. BUT GO AHEAD AND TRY.
@Warcraft, @BlizzardCS, @WarcraftDevs...
Maybe we should add @Overwatch?
Left hand never talks to right hand, maybe it's time to tell all the hands what's up...
Bump! Keep the discussion alive!
A lot of the things they shoved down our collective throats is disliked by many people...
They don't seem to care.
They don't seem to care.
Blizzard,
With all the negativity surrounding BfA (some justified, some maybe not), guess who's holding your player base together? Yup, healthy active guilds.
Guild leaders spend extra time out of their week to help and maintain their guild. For myself, I use tools outside the game because the ones in-game are terrible.
You've slighted guilds for several expansions now.
Help us help you, and give us the tools in-game that we need to make our roles easier.
With all the negativity surrounding BfA (some justified, some maybe not), guess who's holding your player base together? Yup, healthy active guilds.
Guild leaders spend extra time out of their week to help and maintain their guild. For myself, I use tools outside the game because the ones in-game are terrible.
You've slighted guilds for several expansions now.
Help us help you, and give us the tools in-game that we need to make our roles easier.
New Guild UI sux
I'm not reading all this but I agree that the new Guild UI is awful. The Guildmaster should have more control again and the permanent chat log is ridiculous. There was no good reason for either of these changes.
You can keep the new layout but give the permissions back.
You can keep the new layout but give the permissions back.
Imagine going to Burger King, McDonalds, AND Five Guys just get a response on if they've even spent a second of thought on this issue.