The new Guild UI and Permissions...yikes (Part 1)

Adding my voice too. Honestly I want to hear their though process behind this change anyway, because it just doesn't seem to make sense.
As an aside its weird topics like this need cap extensions..i mean how complicated is it. Just revert the changes.

Now why did i post then ...doctor's office waiting room...bored.
Continuing my daily search for great posts and terrific ideas from earlier in this thread. It's not a difficult task, since nearly every single page has at least one, and often several, good things on it.

Here's some really good ideas I found on page 26--yes, as often as I've been doing these, I'm still only up to page 26.
07/25/2018 03:30 AMPosted by Ðirt
Some additional ideas (that may or may not be plausible)...
Guild banks should recognize the difference between single items and stacks. Having to split things into smaller stacks for members to withdraw (particularly raid necessities) is very tedious and consumes a huge chunk of space. On top of that, clever greedy members can just re-stack the smaller stacks and take a whole stack anyways. Likewise, members sometimes accidentally take whole stacks of things without realizing when they only wanted to take one item (this happened in my guild with Gems and Enchants constantly). Be able to set either (or both) single item and stack limits.
A limited amount of time in which a person may withdraw items from guild bank that they deposited, if they have no withdrawal permissions. People accidentally put the wrong things in sometimes, having to wait around for someone that can return it for them is, quite frankly, really stupid.
Additional withdrawal limit and Guild Repair settings... like x-amount per day, up to x-amount per week (and possibly up to x-amount per month)
Offline Guild invite ability. I believe this was mentioned either in this thread or a similar one, but it's important. It's so hard to catch a player online sometimes who has applied to join. There should be a way to extend an invite automatically when the player comes online.
Building off the previous suggestion, there should also be a way for the guild system to recognize a person's alt who already has a character in guild, and allow them to join without having to catch someone online to invite them. This should be a toggle permission, as some guilds do not want the roster cluttered with alts.
This one isn't specifically a guild thing, but pretty please can we be allowed to have an increase to the amount of in-game mails we are allowed to have sent at one time? Every Christmas, I mail gifts to my members... and partway through, I have to sit around and wait for some members to retrieve their mail before I can continue sending. I want to send it all, people getting their mails before I can even send other members' gifts spoils the surprise of what's in there for those I haven't been able to send yet!
Now, I know everyone here really wants the all-in-one guild permissions reverted, but these ideas are still a marvelous example of the things Blizzard could have done to improve guilds.

We were told they need more feedback. Well, this thread has all the feedback anyone could ever want. I'm really at the point where I'm thinking they truly are simply ignoring us at this point. They HAVE to know how extremely frustrating this is.

I'm not blaming the Blues. They can't tell us anything they haven't been told. Well, maybe I'm blaming them just a teensy bit. I mean, maybe they could be more aggressive in relaying our concerns? Or perhaps give us another "we haven't forgotten you" post? Sure, anything they put here (other than "permissions have now been reverted") will likely get flamed by some, but I would certainly like the reassurance that someone is actually looking at all this feedback Blizzard asked for.
If I was guildless, I would want to be in Fumel's guild.
Uh Blizz? You there? Or is this going to be a “new phone who dis” moment?
One does not simply...

Change guild controls without having an 80+ page thread created about it.
Brutal.

Untested.

Manipulation of controls.

Proven to be ineffective.
09/28/2018 03:08 PMPosted by Venjin
Brutal.

Untested.

Manipulation of controls.

Proven to be ineffective.


That about sums it up.
Customers voicing feedback to blizzard should be used to this:
https://youtu.be/NI_wyiY4vyk
Blizzard?

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
Lets help our guildies come to play!
I can't seem to do it anymore,
The old ways out the door,
It's like it's gone away!

We used to have good options!
But now we don't,
I wish you would tell me Why.

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
It doesn't have be a special rank...

*Blizzard* - Go away Guild Masters!

Okay, bye.

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
Or explain why you don't care?
I think a response is overdue,
I've started talking to,
the voices in the air!

It gets a little misleading,
pretending you're here.
And watching the thread just grow!
(Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?)

Blizzard, please I know you're in there.
People are asking where you've been.
They say, "have patience", and we're trying to.
We're right out here for you,
Just let us in!

We only have each other,
It's just us and you,
So what are you gonna do?

Do you wanna make a guild rank...
09/28/2018 04:35 PMPosted by Venjin
Blizzard?

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
Lets help our guildies come to play!
I can't seem to do it anymore,
The old ways out the door,
It's like it's gone away!

We used to have good options!
But now we don't,
I wish you would tell me Why.

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
It doesn't have be special rank...

*Blizzard* - Go away Guild Masters!

Okay, bye.

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
Or explain why you don't care?
I think a response is overdue,
I've started talking to,
the voices in the air!

It gets a little misleading,
pretending you're here.
And watching the thread just grow!
(Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?)

Blizzard, please I know you're in there.
People are asking where you've been.
They say, "have patience", and we're trying to.
We're right out here for you,
Just let us in!

We only have each other,
It's just us and you,
So what are you gonna do?

Do you wanna make a guild rank...


Bro did you just use Frozen......oh no you didn't....
09/28/2018 04:35 PMPosted by Venjin
Blizzard?

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
Lets help our guildies come to play!
I can't seem to do it anymore,
The old ways out the door,
It's like it's gone away!

We used to have good options!
But now we don't,
I wish you would tell me Why.

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
It doesn't have be special rank...

*Blizzard* - Go away Guild Masters!

Okay, bye.

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
Or explain why you don't care?
I think a response is overdue,
I've started talking to,
the voices in the air!

It gets a little misleading,
pretending you're here.
And watching the thread just grow!
(Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?)

Blizzard, please I know you're in there.
People are asking where you've been.
They say, "have patience", and we're trying to.
We're right out here for you,
Just let us in!

We only have each other,
It's just us and you,
So what are you gonna do?

Do you wanna make a guild rank...


This is brilliant, and I will be singing it for days.
09/28/2018 07:46 PMPosted by Aribeth
09/28/2018 04:35 PMPosted by Venjin
Blizzard?

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
Lets help our guildies come to play!
I can't seem to do it anymore,
The old ways out the door,
It's like it's gone away!

We used to have good options!
But now we don't,
I wish you would tell me Why.

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
It doesn't have be special rank...

*Blizzard* - Go away Guild Masters!

Okay, bye.

Do you wanna make a guild rank?
Or explain why you don't care?
I think a response is overdue,
I've started talking to,
the voices in the air!

It gets a little misleading,
pretending you're here.
And watching the thread just grow!
(Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?)

Blizzard, please I know you're in there.
People are asking where you've been.
They say, "have patience", and we're trying to.
We're right out here for you,
Just let us in!

We only have each other,
It's just us and you,
So what are you gonna do?

Do you wanna make a guild rank...


Bro did you just use Frozen......oh no you didn't....


Given the title of that movie and the rate at which this is being addressed, I thought it was appropriate.
It's kinda crazy that this post could get this far with no feedback other than "we see you... but its not broken to us so...."
We are still here!

Our guild's are still broken!!

Blizzard is still silent!!!

/BUMP!!!!
THE DEAL HAS BEEN ALTERED PRAY WE DO NOT ALTER IT FURTHER!

Pretty crazy this is still broken.

Common people fix this. It was functional as is for over a decade why screw with it now?
The guild UI needed modernization and improving, but instead they hacked it up and broke it.

They broke guild addons in 7.3 and never provided any solution to the functionality they provided. Just blocked them from accessing the guild UI.

In what universe does clicking 3 or more times to remove one inactive guild member make sense? How about doing that for a dozen or more inactive guild members every month? The guild UI needed to be improved but instead they made it worse.

The fact that guild leaders are a tiny fraction of WoW players and WoW players posting here represent a tiny fraction of total players anyway makes this thread all the more amazing. It has stayed active this long and seemingly been ignored and deemed unworthy of meaningful comment.

Where's the community engagement improvements they like to promise? Not in this thread. It is sad.
Annnnnddd bump
09/29/2018 12:30 AMPosted by Ampm
It's kinda crazy that this post could get this far with no feedback other than "we see you... but its not broken to us so...."


Improved communication at its best.
I'm still here....

I'm still not happy with the guild permissions as they are atm.

Am I adjusting? Yes. Do I like it? Absolutely not.

Do I think this is not being addressed because there are some serious issues with the game right now? Yes.

Lets see... List of complaints....

Disapointing loot... 340's that are better than 370's... This is dangerous for the player base for a number a reasons... But this is the wrong thread.

Shamans are in one of the worst place I think I have ever seen a class in this far into an expansion ever. And this has not been addressed... and wont be addressed until 8.1? Really Blizz...

Master Looter is gone, so stuff is dropping and people cant even pass it to other members that really NEED the gear cause it binds for one reason or another.

Professions feel absolutely useless unless you have Alchamey or Enchanting... Oh but wait you want to scrap your gear instead of Disenchanting it...

Blizz there is a reason why people are calling this expansion Beta for Azeroth. I don't know what is going on corperate wise, but y'all need to get it together. I don't think i have EVER been this disapointed in an expansion, and I've been playing since TBC.

IF I wasn't a guild leader i would seriously consider not even playing the content at all. So for the love of the "Light" can you at least fix the dang guild controls.