Nonsense. The top five posters add up to less than 1400 posts (atm). You need to count the top 17 posters to break the 2k mark. 
But what real difference does it make how many posts or posters there are? Seriously. Either the issue is a problem (and Blizzard has already admitted it is) or itâs not.
Either way, since itâs not a problem for you, Che, why do you keep posting? Morbid curiosity? Or are you secretly playing devilâs advocate to keep the thread alive? Hmm. 
the same people seem to make all these insane posts about how they need to restore or implement elements to the game that allow guilds to be more exclusive etcâŠiâm guessing these people are mostly people who do paid runs or something.
there has to be some economic incentiveâŠ
anyway, i really hope blizzard continues to ignore these people and hopefully bans any addons they try to use to circumvent the rulesâŠseriously imagined being this entitled as a tiny fraction of the playerbase
Check out my guild, dude. Paid runs⊠I canâtâŠ
Been trying to check in on my guild most days. Itâs just an alt guild, nothing special. A place where folks can level their alts in peace while still having guild perks (like the hasty hearth).
It would be nice to turn it into a more meaningful guild. Iâve had some nice convos with some of the members. Without granular permissions though, I just donât want to bother. Thatâs my own problem, I know. But thatâs how it is.
Iâm still attempting (unsuccessfully so far) to find out the situation with permissions on the beta. Since Blizzard seems determined not to communicate with us, I have been pestering everyone I know, trying to find someone with beta access and asking them to make a guild and send me a screenshot of the permissions.
The response is usually, âThey still havenât fixed that?â This situation is beyond ridiculous. Thank you for the feathers, and the ability to put flowers in my braids (a daisy color option would be really great btw). But what I really want is for that dang âIs Officerâ box to be gone already.
Iâm really hoping you find something outâand that itâs good news. 
However-
This has gone on so long, I seriously wouldnât be surprised if itâs not fixed before Shadowlands launch. (I donât want to even imagine it wonât get fixed, ever.)
I canât help feeling that Blizz is just waiting for us to give up.
Ion never should have told us they were working on a fix if they werenât actually going to implement one. He never should have asked for more feedback if no one at Blizz was going to do anything with it. This entire situation is so bizarre that my head aches just thinking about it.
LOL, paid runsâŠ!
Got a nice âentitledâ zinger in there too, and some Schadenfreude, neat.
Weâre asking for guilds to return to being more customizeable, people can already be as exclusive as they wantâŠwhat are you even on aboutâŠ?
Yup. Thatâs exactly what I would like, too. The ability to assign different permissions to different characters/playersâlike we used to be able to do.
I think dropping the âaboutâ sums up what I was wondering regarding that dude. But despite detailed explanations of how guilds work, he wants to believe this change makes guilds more egalitarian. I guess thereâs no point in trying to reason with a lead brick.
Iâd still like to know if anyone has seen anything in the beta regarding guilds and guild permissions.
I just use the old interface. I might look at the new one once a month. Having the old functions for setting rank permissions is critical. The big issue for me is needing possibly an additional rank slot, and more functionality when there is a problem. We could have one person cause a problem, then itâs a matter of sorting out which are their alts. Coupled with them connecting additional realms now, most any guild can easily hit the 1000 cap, It needs to change to an account system. Just put a 1000 limit to accounts. I know we have been talking about this since the day I walked into the Priest Class Hall and started getting comments from members in the guild in Officer chat. They did fix some problems, but it is far from being a big improvement. It is more of a step back.
This is a pretty funny take honestly. I got a real chuckle out of our issue being taken as âentitledâ considering 90% of the topics on this forum at any given time. People get upset over the shade of color used in a spell animation and threaten to quit for life, go bug them.
And as for our âincentiveâ, a large proportion of this thread is made up of GMâs, from past and present, asking for the options back, that were available for 12 some odd years. The change was made in BfA with the communities system, and the only thing people want, is their OPTIONS back.
jeez mang
90% of the topics on this forum are mythic raiders whining about not having enough ways to gatekeep people or make more money from paid runsâŠso yeah.
like i said, if they are trustworthy enough to be an officer who cares? better to have more power spread out in guilds so individuals are less likely to be able to engage in toxic behavior
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WEâRE ASKING FOR.
Jeeze, I have to wonder if youâre being deliberately dense. Separating the permissions allows GMâs to spread them out among various members. Lumping all the permissions together forces GMâs to make only their most trusted friends officersâthe exact thing you were complaining about. All we want is the ability to customize our guilds so the power to do things is shared in whatever way best suits our individual guilds.
Itâs obvious to me that you are not a Guild Master and have never been one.
Iâm a roleplayer in a roleplay guild. Custom ranks allowed me to slowly grant individuals more access and power in the guild as they progressed and became more trustworthy. None of it involved gatekeeping at all. No paid runs.
Further, more power spread out would beâŠhaving custom ranks to spread it out. Letting them do things without doing everything. So they canât be toxic.
The old way allowed us to either make custom ranks or have strictly officers and members. This way only lets us have one. Itâs a net loss.
which is the point, all officers should have certain powers. instead of the guild being run by one or several people who have all the actual power.
it decentralizes power which is good since it prevents corruption and nepotism
??? ???
Lumping all the permissions together is the opposite of âdecentralization.â Are your just trolling now? Seriously?
Do you truly not understand that the Guild Master is still the one in charge of everything? Itâs just that now they canât spread the permissions out among their members. Weâre asking for Blizzard to put the permissions back to where GMâs can allow more members to use them.
You really donât seem to grasp how this works at all. If you want less nepotism, you should be in favor of granular permissions and against having them all lumped together under one rank.
But you know, your complete misunderstanding of the situation does help boost the thread, so good for you!
I didnât realize theyâd opened servers all the way over in Bizarro World.
Seeing as this hasnât been bumped in a day, Iâll take a moment to do that now.
Iâm still wondering if anyone has heard any news from the beta (or any other source) if any changes are being made to guilds in Shadowlands. Iâve heard plenty of stuff about other things, but not a peep about guilds.
Yes, I want our permissions fixed. But I also want reassurance that Blizz still thinks guilds have a place in WoW. Because from where I sit, itâs not looking that way at all.
I think Bliz is reluctant to return granular guild control as that may be an indiication that communities are not as successful as they would like.
As we know Bliz make no errors at all and if we are unhappy about any changes it is we who must change.