The new Guild UI and Permissions...yikes (Part 1)

Velara-gilneas · January 8, 2019, 4:10am

BIG points for the “Blink” quote. Exceptional!

Fumel-arathor · January 8, 2019, 5:02am

Hey, I just saw the most awesome husband of a guild master (who runs a most awesome guild) tonight at the Darkmoon Faire. First time I’ve ever “in-person” met someone from the forums. Unfortunately, me being ally and him being horde, we could only /wave and /salute.

I’m not sure whether to be happy or sad that I feel like I’ve made a friend or two on these forums because of this dang permissions issue. Can’t we just get this fixed so we can all focus on our gaming and not trying to convince someone–anyone–to listen to us?

Venjin-bronzebeard · January 8, 2019, 5:48am

Okay, here’s the honest truth, I didn’t see you at first because I was drunk off my rocker from downing all the Darkmoon Booze in my bags to clear it from my inventory (yeah yeah, I know, I could just delete it, but why waste booze?) So here I am, stumbling onto the carousel, and I’m actually thinking I’m hallucinating because I start to see you waving and I’m like “WTF…how drunk am I?!”

Brahmina-khadgar · January 9, 2019, 1:31am

Fumel-arathor · January 9, 2019, 1:41am

Heh. I’m usually oblivious to my surroundings (and especially other players), so I was kind of shocked that I saw and recognized you in the first place. And I don’t have the excuse of any sort of drink.

The fact is, I spied you first on an alt who was looking for various horde characters to plop pumpkins on for that achieve. I realized you wouldn’t know that character, and I figured you’d be done with your “Faire-ing” before I could bring Fumel up, so I just /waved at that time and went about my business. (I already had done a troll, or you would have got a pumpkin on your head.)

I took Fumel to the Faire just to do the usual stuff (and fight the knight at the Blight Boar concert). I was ready to leave when I heard the sound of a troll raptor being mounted. I just looked around and saw it was you.

Venjin-bronzebeard · January 9, 2019, 3:22am

Haha, I had plenty of “Faire-ing” to do yet, but like an idiot I decided to get the food/drink achievement in the middle of all that and my screen was blurry as f*** so that prevented me from being any sort of productive. I thought it’d be hilarious to go on the carousel in said state and…well…there ya go!

Lekneve-ragnaros · January 9, 2019, 3:56pm

Hey blizz, friendly reminder, we still don’t like this changes, please fix
Oh, the way to fix is reverting, simple

Venjin-bronzebeard · January 9, 2019, 7:35pm

Oh Bliz, please don’t construe my elation at my chance run-in with Fumel as any sort of satisfaction with the state of things.

Get on that reversion for the officer controls!

Fumel-arathor · January 10, 2019, 4:09am

So, even though it seems pointless, I decided to go back to my read-through and pull up another post. Here is one from August 18 that wasn’t happy about the minor changes they made just prior to BfA launch:

Restomak:

There’s two days left before the expansion launches without a single communication from Blizzard. I hope we’ll get something, but it’s not looking likely.

As for the scrap tossed to us (GMs having no control over people setting their own note, option for guild speak privilege), it’s nice but misguided. What makes you think that every guild wants to have every member able to change their own notes? What’s with these forced guild rules?

My guild is my guild. My members being allowed to edit their own note is nice, but there’s already proof that it’s not best for every other guild out there; just see the other posts in this thread.

My officers or myself still have to do most of the work in setting people’s notes since you won’t let non-officers help officers when they invite someone’s alt, my members aren’t able to speak in officer chat without being able to see officer chat (I use that for suggestion dumping), and as a result there’s still tons more work I have to do compared to before - I’m already not being paid to manage all these people, and you’re making my life harder?

I have a phrase I like to tell my members: “you don’t have to be an officer to be helpful.” Well, it’s less true with the new UI.

If my point wasn’t clear enough: give us our unconsolidated permissions back.

I absolutely cannot argue with this–especially the last line. Just separate the permissions like they were before, or explain why this can’t be done. Thanks.

Roguewit-sargeras · January 10, 2019, 4:57pm

Day one with no subscription. I have yet to receive the un-sub survey. I’m already familiar with the questions, and I already have my responses mapped out.
I don’t know how many characters the comment boxes will allow, but rest assured, I will be using all of them.

A message from my Second, currently in charge of my guild:
@Blizzard, Guild Controls are still BROKEN!

Delirium-bronzebeard · January 10, 2019, 9:24pm

Fix the guild controls bump!

Druunah-ravencrest · January 10, 2019, 11:13pm

Check it out!

Blizzard actually finally succeeded (be it inadvertently) in creating a “community” of sorts! Through this guild control issue, a group of people have come together for a common cause and in some fashion, formed bonds with one another. (We even have the occasional visit from that nutty/drunk uncle)

I too feel as of I have made several friends here on this thread even if we never get a chance to actually “meet” in-game or otherwise.

/respect to you all

Now, if we could only get Blizzard to understand how important (dare I say vital?) guilds are to Wow.

Cheheals-gilneas · January 11, 2019, 1:37am

Been a month or so since I posted.

I would ask the “regular” posters here to take a similar break and see what happens to this thread.

Like I have said before: none of you have reached out to Method, other large guilds killing content. I have…they haven’t even responded. They don’t care. You can’t create traction unless you address this issue: the majority of guilds do not care.

Like I said. Take a month long break and see what happens to the thread. When (not if, lol) you see that no one else cares either…well then you have your answer.

Velara-gilneas · January 11, 2019, 1:39am

Yeah, because what others do is a thing I should mirror.

Venjin-bronzebeard · January 11, 2019, 1:50am

Hey Blizzard.

Fix the guild controls.

It is…

Destiny

wink wink

Brahmina-khadgar · January 11, 2019, 3:05am

Why the flying helicopters should I? I don’t do what they do. I’m not interested in doing what they do. My guild isn’t anything like their guild. What have they got to do with me at all? Not the least surprised they totally ignored you.

P.S. Thanks for the bump!

P.P.S. Fix the permissions, Blizz!

Druunah-ravencrest · January 11, 2019, 5:16am

       Nice to see you "uncle"

Alternatew-dalaran · January 11, 2019, 5:21am

But you can create your own channels…

Dlaciabia-sisters-of-elune · January 11, 2019, 6:32am

This thread is scary…

'Cause it keeps going bump in the night.

Roguewit-sargeras · January 11, 2019, 2:42pm

(Pats the Activision plant on the head), Aww… that’s cute.
I took a month off from posting in December. Guess what? I, every other person still posting here (be it on the regular, or as sporadically as yourself), everyone in the FB groups to which I belong, and most of the population that I run across on my (still full) server still want this issue fixed.

In fact, I’d venture a guess that the vast majority of the entire player-base wants this and every other broken aspect of the game fixed.

But, since Method is the only famous guild you can think of to name-drop… You’re right, Method doesn’t care. That’s because Method’s power structure is external and not in game. Method’s biggest concern right now is loss of job. HotS was shot to death. Hearthstone may be next (if the survey Blizz sent out is any indication)-- the future of e-Sports at Blizzard Entertainment is in jeopardy–so, yeah, Method may not give a damn about the state of guild controls…

But then again, most guilds worldwide aren’t sponsored so we aren’t concerned with our meal ticket.

We are concerned about the state of guild controls, as well as many other aspects of the state of WoW–and indeed, Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. as a whole–as we all watch the upper eschelon and the talent jump ship.

@Blizzard: Get well soon… Guild Controls are still broken.