The new Guild UI and Permissions...yikes (Part 1)

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Never did I imagine that this issue would be taken past 8.1, let alone going into 2019.

Blizzard, you fail.

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2523

Maybe we’ll get a blue post before 2020 ?

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2524

Yeah, I don’t like it. Like I didn’t let officers edit MOTD and stuff

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2525

You were doing just fine up until the last paragraph.
They always say that; to every single problem we have inflicted on us: for this are problems of their doing, not ours.
If the current staff cannot handle the collective mess they have created, then let them find other employment and Blizzard can hire someone who can do the job right!

Yes I know this is coming almost 2 months ‘late’: the problems are still with us.
We are being ignored.
AGAIN!

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2526

Thank god you can still use /guildroster. I set a macro for it. The whole new guild UI is ridiculous let alone the permission fail.

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2527

Happy New Year one and all. Horde, Alliance, etc


Whether you’ve a small guild, large guild, storage guild, social, raiding, rp, you are all Guild Leaders and you all deserve better than Blizzard has given.

Not that it means much I suppose, but I want to extend my personal thanks to everyone who has stuck with this topic since (almost) the middle of last year.

Blizzard:
You have a lot of unhappy customers. Paying customers. Not merely here (on this post regarding this subject) but all over the place.

For me at least, a word about what is going on with our broken guilds would be much appreciated, if not at this point, applauded.

Again, Happy New Year everyone.

Be safe all.

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2528

Happy New Year! May 2019 bring us all news of guild improvements!

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2529

They don’t really communicate much of anything.

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2530

I am sort of ashamed that I stopped visiting this thread, I guess I just accepted that “I have to accept it and move on” but screw that. Some of you may remember me, I certainly see some familiar faces, and am glad you all are keeping up the good fight.

give us back our guilds. Please.

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2531

At least say whether or not it is considered a problem/being worked on


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2532

They can’t work on it. Their ego prevents it. That would be admitting that they put something into the game that we didn’t want or ask for and still don’t want, wasn’t a good idea. After all they need to tell us what we want. We’re too dumb to know for ourselves.

Like Dylan Thomas said
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Maybe they’ll quit turning a blind eye so long as we’re still reiterating, but I doubt it.

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2533

^Sadly, I think the problem is worse than this.

It’s not that the devs have “ego” issues or don’t want to make a great game. It’s someone holding the purse strings saying, “Don’t waste any more resources on this ancient game.” That’s the conclusion I’ve reached, anyway, based on all sorts of information–including business articles about Activision/Blizzard.

If I’m right, WoW isn’t going to last much longer. I really never thought I’d make a “WoW is dying” post. And, to be honest, it’s not “dying”. Someone in charge is actively killing it.

I’m having a hard time trying to be optimistic–and I really am an over-all optimistic person. But guilds are WoW’s foundation. For Blizzard to not only be ignoring the cracks in the foundation but to be deliberately widening them is insanity itself. Unless, of course, they truly don’t give a fig about WoW anymore.

I used to believe they would simply pull the plug if they didn’t want to support the game anymore. But it seems someone up top wants to milk every last penny out of the subscribers. Rather than make a great game that attracts millions, they’re trying to cut as many corners as possible. As long as the subscriptions don’t drop below life-support levels, they’ll keep the servers running.

This issue with the guilds and Blizzard’s non-response has proven that they can break even die-hard fan like me if they try hard enough.

What a way to start a new year.

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2534

This thread got started back in JULY on the old forums.
Since then , all we’ve seen from Blizzard is


  1. Been told its not going to happen.
  2. Been told it’s happening sort of.
  3. ‘Soon’
  4. ‘Have you no phones?’

We, on the other hand, have


  1. given feedback.
  2. Waited patiently.
  3. given more feedback.
  4. Read Venjin’s numerous poems!
  5. Mourned for Xe’s loss.
  6. 
and waited.

Still waiting.

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2535

If they really didn’t want to invest resources in the game, they would stop:

Investing resources to develop end-runs around player flight (whistles, NPCs, more flight paths, portals, load screen art; gliders, feathers)

Investing resources to remove content from prior expansions (cheaper to leave it alone)

Investing resources to retool, redesign systems that have been in-game from launch (camera angle, UIl; Guild UI; loot options; adding GCD; reshuffling talents/abilities and reinventing the class design wheel every expac, to name a few.

All of these efforts take time, resources and MONEY.

And literally none of them ever was necessary and most are greatly unappreciatd/unwanted.

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2536

I have to agree with this.

I myself posted a doom and gloom “Blizzard is killing Wow itself” post (more than one in all honesty) but I have to say, that that theory (even if true) does not make sense.

Why invest tons of money in a game only to kill said game that may be old, but is (or was) still making money hand over fist?

Not only that but Classic is on the way. It makes even less sense to me that Blizzard would give up on modern Wow because “it’s old” only to turn around and invest a ton of money to recreate “that old game” in an even older less refined state.

There seems to be more going on here than meets the eye. And more going on than my holiday exhausted brain can fathom at the moment.

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2537

I agree too. Mismanagement makes a lot more sense than a conspiracy to deliberately destroy the game. It’s far more probable that some well-intentioned but completely out-of-touch person (or persons) is making decisions they shouldn’t be.

As for who that person is, I have no idea, and I don’t really care. I just hope someone at Blizzard figures it out, and transfers the decision making to someone who is not out-of-touch.

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2538

You know
thinking about it, I have not seen this thread on the top threads on these new forums at all
it mostly just the same ones made after the switch over
maybe they actually think this thread died?

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2539

I know this thread is old, but it is STILL relevant and warrants a bump.

This guild permission issue became a HUGE problem today in my new guild. The GM couldn’t figure out who to fix it so instead just deleted the officer rank.

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2540

I really don’t think there are any of us (well, maybe one or two) that think there is any, “big conspiracy,” though we may poke fun at it now and again (Mismanagement is pronounced Activision).

Regardless, the end result is the same, and we’ve been on this train for quite some time–just now the wheels are so loose we’ve noticed they’re about to fall off.
Everyone wants to compare to Vanilla–but even comparing to WotLK, modern WoW isn’t really geared to be MMO–most content is solo-able–and it isn’t even much of a RPG, though they did relent and give a token, “story-choice,” back to the Horde.
Let me preface by saying I love the overall story of Warcraft, from beginning to now and beyond.
That said, the Lore just isn’t as immersive anymore–if WoW belonged to Joss Whedon, BfA would be the musical episode
 just kinda there but not enough to draw you in, or make you feel invested in the story.
I, like the rest of us, hope Blizz remembers why they started WoW in the first place, and endeavors to return to former glory (while still moving forward). If not, I sincerely hope they at least have the sense to give us a spectacular ending.

I have one week left on my subscription, and I’m not renewing. That does not mean I’m giving this up, nor will I be silent.
Until we get something, I’ll see some of you in NeverWinter.

@Blizzard, My Guild Controls are STILL BROKEN.

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Most real jobs fire people like that. Prolly the same guy who thought December 32nd was a thing in the guild chat log.

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