The Multibox Pendulum

This is what I was referencing.

Maybe a little in reference to vendoring gray drops and raw gold drops but not in the sense of raw materials which can only be purchased from the former.

Pretty sure you were the first to bring up any kind of political discussion in this thread and somehow related it to gaming. And I’m certain I don’t know what white democracy is or means. So I’m going to leave that alone completely.

I still have a good time multiboxing but I was never a M+ or farming multiboxer :man_shrugging:

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I was a kill it with numbers as I also couldn’t focus to apply myself into M+ to obtain the high level of gear lvl a single M+ player can achieve.

I think I do a pretty good job personally when considering the ramifications as a whole. That’s the reason I created the post. In fact I had more positive interactions in game because of those considerations.

Hardly. When you start talking about something people have been asking for a long time (multibox limitation), you are talking about something people wanted and it is done mostly because of that. People usually associate white and democracy with politics in terms of governments and stuff, but that is not the thing.

People have been asking to limit or ban multiboxing since the game exists, and it is mostly by the number of people who asks for it that they are doing it now and never did before.

About culture, it is kinda attached to human activities they follow up with the culture they have. You cant escape that in something that is ultimate done by humans (playing the game, developing the game).

You can clearly see, without one single written word, and if they have the exact same graphic style, which game is made in the East and what game is made in West, because not only the players, but the developers, reproduce aspects of their cultures and their “lives” into the works they do.

And this is the point when I say for my part “have a nice life”.

So I’ll refer back to my original post. These changes in policy were all initiated under the pretext of “botting.” The point I’m making is like criminals that don’t obey the law they are still running around unencumbered botting away and those of us that were legitimately playing can no longer enjoy an alternative style of game play.

I appreciated the conversation while it lasted. Best of luck to you.

One last apart.

They never said multiboxing is akin to botting. They said they were putting it in place AT THE SAME TIME as the other efforts to prevent automated play and botting. Blizzard is well aware botting and mutiboxing are not synonyms, and they themselves were the first ones to make that distinction long ago.

I mean they policy was updated recently to what you just referred to but that was not the original policy updates intention. There were several YouTube videos made regarding it. Back when it happened. I mean their own api has a call that allows you to tell another player to follow you.

Policy Update for Input Broadcasting - May 2021:

Anyone can read, anyone can see why and based on what. No more crap.

“We find that, like full automation of play, multiple-account mirroring disturbs the gameplay experience for the vast majority of players who control a single account at a time.”

And, as an added bonus, I might add:
Dont say “I dont think it disturbs the gameplay experience for others” when you are one of the people doing the thing, and therefore you cant be a parameter for what you doing bothering SOMEONE ELSE.

ptsd flashback of multiple multiboxers on Emerald Dream, and getting 80 Corruptions and 80 Curse of Agonies put on me in an instant, or 40 Howling Blasts, or 60 Chimera Shots, and many, many more boxers and abilities all being thrown out at once, instantly killing me in those damned jungles of Tanaan.

Yeah I’m glad multiboxing is dying.

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I truly believe that tokens, and not requiring an active copy of retail to play legacy content was a huge proponent of making this possible. Was this in retail or classic?

Yes this is the updated policy. I’m referring to the previous one where a bogus excuse for botting was the catalyst. I’m sure you are aware of that one. It was more than 5 months ago.

WoD days. Emerald Dream was the premier wpvp server, and I was in Warsong Battalion, a premier but hated guild. We took pride in ruthless and unrelenting world pvp. I remember the Alliance guilds called upon a multiboxer from Darkspear. We had to change our tactics around to fight against him, the normal strats didn’t work. Eventually we used his multiboxing against him, using death grip and gorefiend’s grip to displace his characters. Still was pretty anti-fun to try to do normal daily content though, having server hopping multiboxers spawn from thin air to harass Tanaan jungle, then server hop back when raids were formed to fight them.

How he did it, I don’t know. I just know I loathed multiboxers prior to that for ruining wsg/ab/insert other bgs. Even if it’s only 5 characters, against unorganized teams, it’s literally an instant win. After dealing with them on ED, I always wished for the day multiboxing would be bannable.

I’m glad to see you found a way to deal with that individual. As you found out there is a way to deal with a multiboxer, and “alternative style.” When you are outnumbered I would say that is tough but still doable. However 5v5 the non boxer should always win organized or not because of rotation and spell efficiencies. But again I never participated in that kind of game play, nor do I support it. If I saw someone doing it I’d probably log into the other faction and try to circumvent it. Then again isn’t there an option to turn off PVP so they can’t disrupt you? I don’t remember the details of Tanaan on whether or not it was a contested area or not. I do remember a time when a level 60 decided to attack me and my 5 paladins at level 50 and got a rude awakening. Yes. He killed 4 of 5 of my guys but I just went back rezzed everyone and went about my business.

WoD didn’t have warmode. Server choice mattered. Emerald Dream was RPPvP, and every zone outside of your garrison for Draenor is contested. Even the capitol cities of Ashran weren’t safe, as you could water walk around the Ashran “open world bg” and just walk into the enemy city.

We were already outnumbered. While in small scale conflicts, it’d usually be 40 organized members versus 60+ unorganized randoms, large scale was easily 4-5 full 40 man raids vs 1-2 40 man raids from the Alliance, except they teamed up, so it would be multiple guilds worth of 1-2 40 man raids.

The biggest problem with the multiboxer, after we learned how to fight him became how to avoid the ddos. I remember his name started with an M, but I don’t remember what it was, but I do remember that after we started beating him, spreading out to watch his respawn, and disrupting him to the point of server hoping back to Darkspear, he would eventually come back and spam fireworks. Now, while this did no damage, it did flood the server with useless packets of information and crash the server. He would couple whatever toys and banners he could with firework spam to end the entire zone. It less of a wpvp problem and more of a guy server hoping and literally crashing a zone with hundreds of people in it. Not only would the 2 pvp groups be DC’d, but every player there would be zucc’d.

We eventually server hopped to Darkspear and killed Swifty, as Swifty had caught wind and wanted to join the multiboxer in taking the big bad Horde down, and from there the wpvp died down as flying came back into the game.

It was pretty trash for the time we had to deal with the multiboxer though. Our large scale pvp usually lagged the server a bit, but it was never intentional (in regards to lagging the server), and it was in the spirit of the server. You don’t play on the premier wpvp server and expect no wpvp.

Giving one player that much power though, enough power to internally ddos a zone is just absurd.

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See that is the exact type of game play that I would consider disruptive and would welcome account penalties on. I’m sorry that you had to experience that. I can tell ya many of us, the larger part of the communities that I am in, are against these types of tactics as well.

i bought a ton of nightshade last weekend for under 8g a piece. sold them all back 24 hours later for more than double that. no multiboxing or software required.