The minimal effort carry me crowd

Only Legion was really a skillcap game

So were other expansions since most people had the same gear (conquest). This expansion it varies by a large degree solely due to what corruptions they were blessed or cursed with.

Not in BGs, it’s the same as now where new players constantly join in. Anyway, off to do some rated BGs.

Not through PvP you don’t.

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OP is talking about leveling bgs, but skipping down I see nobody is talking about that at all. They’re all trying to make it about max level bgs.

Here’s the deal. I know you’re not new here, but I’ve put more than a few characters through leveling bgs over the past few years. That’s exactly how it is, lots of undergeared players with empty slots. That’s how it’s going to be as long as leveling in bgs doesn’t give enough gear to stay caught up.

Gearing was inadequate before the xp buff. Now that people are leveling up faster, it’s even more inadequate.

What are you proposing, that people should stop their xp and spam dungeons for gear?

There are no solutions that players can apply. Live with it or don’t. There’s nothing any of us can do about it.

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Everything out of the weekly chest is corrupted except trinkets. Of course it’s still 445. Last week I opened 14 chests and got 1 corrupted item that wasn’t vendor trash.

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What about Azerite gear?

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I wasn’t actually counting them as “items of interest”. An “item of interest” would be a piece of gear with an interesting corruption on it, not some duplicate azerite piece I have gotten 3 times already.

Like trinkets, they are not corrupted. Like everything at 445, they are most often duplicates.

We should be getting 460 gear from the weekly chest if we are getting 460 conquest gear. The fact that we are not is just another sign that pvp is an afterthought.

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Right it’s not a bad thing that you can gear up in various ways. You’d be seeing a lot more under 100k hp players if Bgs were the only way to gear.

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Having options is good. Having one of those options being pathetic in comparison to the others is not good.

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Getting 460 gear from randoms now is not bad. You don’t get that from LFR

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460 only if up to date on conquest cap. Easier to just farm M+, can even form “funnel” groups.

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Then go for it. I’ll just choose to never step foot in M+ or raid. Choices are nice

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Here is the thing come under geared , get carried

But don’t start complaining about twinks and getting one shot and how unfair it is

Also start saying so and so faction sucks when you don’t make any effort

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You seem to be out of touch with how the playerbase plays. The overwhelming majority of levelers have never visited the forums and never will. Their biggest complaint right now is probably party sync premades.

So I’m not sure what you’re whining about. You don’t even seem to have any solution except for levelers to quit the game.

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LOL oh that mirror

Compliants are about party sync , twinks at 20 and 110 and 120 geared players

By the same suspects

The undegeared no efforts crowd

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Do I look like an undergeared leveler to you?

What would you like to have happen that would fix the problem, given that we can’t change other people or the system, as we are only players ourselves?

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No its not about having various ways. There is literally no way to get 4 PvP essences. You have to do other ways :roll_eyes: same with the cloak. There is ZERO PvP way to level it.

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@OP, do you keep a spreadsheet of these people? Perhaps you should implement a contact tracing system to make sure everyone’s marching in lock step with what to post about on the forums.

It’s nice seeing someone argue for the game rather than themselves. +1