The M+ nerf is good and raiding should always offer the best gear

[Pandar-firetree]

@Totesmlotes-thrall

I left out a not. Infinitely farmable content should NOT be infinitely rewarding. That was my mistake.

How about some solutions, then? This is very much a solvable problem that has been ignored in development decisions, and is antithetical to the words provided by blizzard directly on design intent (more below)

Potential solutions starting point

@Pandar-firetree

Please consider alternative ideas in the weeks ahead. Some of those could include the following

• Increase the power of dungeon-loot in a way that scales up beyond 15. To keep this from impacting Raid encounters, consider creative solutions (outlined below)
• An Ilvl modifier that only applies to M+ (applied to dungeon gear dropped above M+15, that is ineffective in raid encounters)
• Dungeon Sets (though, may be tricky to implement with time to release)
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• To avoid massively quick gearing, apply Diminishing Returns to dungeon-drop loot chance for each run (also, potentially to each M+ level, if you want v high ilvl gear to be very difficult to attain). DR’s resetting weekly, essentially serving as “raid reset” but for the M+ community.

This direct quote, below, doesn’t hold up…

@Kaivax

The design intent is for all three paths to provide parallel progression over the course of a tier, while providing players who engage in multiple paths at a comparable level a faster advancement experience.

Reason being, it doesn’t mathematically equate

Personal loot: the hard numbers (BfA edition)

PREAMBLE: This thread was created to provide some insight to personal loot drop rates in raids, gathered through months of painstaking data collection. Current results are presented below, along with results from previous expansions for comparison purposes. HISTORY: Early on in WoD I created a thread called Personal loot: the hard numbers, intended to give a glimpse into the drop rates of personal loot in raids (see here: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/16283269268#1 ). That thread co…

“EOD” gear per raid boss drops at 25% rate per boss. This is not available to any other system and is a unique gearing path for Raid. All other “EOD” gear per event drops meaningless loot that is powerless… With meaningful boss loot being available only to raid, then individuals that select to raid over other high challenge content will have a quantifiable advantage immediately, and continue to gear at a pace that is unparalleled.

Progression is not only raid progression. Raiding will be exclusively the best (read: only competitive) way to gear for all other content. Even though it is stated above in blue, that it is intended to be “parallel progression” throughout the tier. There is only one path for viable progression, as mathematically laid out.