The Layering Scandal

Launch will be worse with more shards. More chances to hop layers.

More chances to not move cause the layer is full too.

You know what…sharding in starting zones only actually makes a lot more sense. It wouldn’t effect the economy nearly as much. Good thoughts bro.

Is there evidence to support the game is in this condition right now? Do you have any way to prove the game, today, is in that shape or the game in the future won’t be fixed before it goes live?

You are making assumptions based on your idea nothing will change from the day those videos were posted until Aug 26/27.

Layer won’t stay full Nok, because people constantly moving in and out.

You are being purposefully argumentative.

I am providing insight with experience. You are clinging to your fear. Not that you’re wrong either. Layering is bad long term. Layering does hurt the economy. However I have seen nothing from you that is an alternative that isn’t also bad and doesn’t hurt the economy either.

I was speaking of the system as it is going live, obviously the topic at hand. The entire purpose of this post and discussion is to shine light on it and it not go live. The entire purpose is that it will get fixed. What the hell?

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Stress test is no experience. How many players got into stress test ? How many layers were used ? How many players per layer ?

You don’t have those numbers. all you can do is speculate.

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Here we go… Claiming I have a phobia because I call something out…

Nope. Not doing it…

So logging into the Classic client and experiencing layering being used first hand is no experience? Ok…

If I am speculating it is better speculation than unfounded speculation. Which would be what shock is doing. He hasn’t logged into the Classic client and hasn’t experience layering first hand.

Never said phobia. Phobia is an irrational fear. You have fear involving layering. To say otherwise is a lie. If you didn’t you wouldn’t have made this post calling it out.

Maybe concern would have been a better word over fear.

Nokrai…you didn’t say speculate in the post I commented on.

Ignore the points made. I’ve come to expect better from you Brockthorn.

Nokrai…you came across as making statements, not opinion and not speculation.

Sorry to have jumped on you like that. I’ve seen too many other posters spew BS as “facts”. One poster has gone as far as to say “there will be 5 million players on launch day”.

I get it. I was making statements statements on my own personal experience. Sure it’s anecdotal evidence. It is anecdotal evidence that is completely different than what is being claimed as far as ease of layer hopping.

I don’t like layering and am not pro-layering. I just haven’t seen another option that doesn’t carry the same downsides. Also know that layering is coming either way.

Which is why I want people to understand that it needs to be gone from the game ASAP. Not “at the end of Phase 1” when the damage is done. Alternatively, sharding the first few starting zones for a few days works also as someone else mentioned.

I feel like Blizzard may be underestimating the depths people will go to in order to manipulate the technology and gain advantage.

Oh yea, also…about those streamers all being silent about layering…

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I do wonder what’s going to happen when layering has finally been taken out, and then the realms are just being left to be realms on their own again.

Did layering permanently make sure that the realms now free of it are going to keep being stable places?
After all, now with no measures in place anymore from that point on, they will be in the same circumstances the old realms were in, where people move around for whatever reason, if they so wish.
That again can create imbalances, especially if key players leave and the rest of the realm follows, which happened to my realm and it quickly died off.

Also, say a couple realms have way too many people in them after layering is removed. Several weeks later, there is still a big queue on those realms, because layers were very full upon being removed.
Are there gonna be new server transfers offered, so people can move away from those realms? Are there gonna be new realms opened?

If there are, then isn’t that splitting the server if people choose to transfer off to those new realms because they are tired of waiting in queues? Something they wanted to avoid with layering supposedly?
How stable will those new realms be then? Are things just gonna suddenly stabilize across the board until the maybe release TBC next, with no servers dying or communities split apart…?

It’s not gonna help longterm for server health. Another reason not to use it. But hey. Think what you want.

If they don’t want servers to crash for launch, do you not think they won’t want servers to crash for AQ gate opening? There is no evidence as I didn’t state a fact, I made a prediction. To back up my prediction, I think them developing this technology only to abandon it after 2 months or so (when ever phase 1 ends) is a waste of resources for them. Why would they spend so much time developing a new system for the game only to use it for a few months? They might use it for BFA too, but my point is why would they not use a new technology they developed when it helped them avoid server issues? When there are big events with way too many people online in one zone, do you really think they wouldn’t utilize their layering to split them up so the servers don’t crash and make several thousand players not participating in the event angry?

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They clearly aren’t willing to forgo some type of population scaling.

Ion himself promised “a few weeks” until it is gone. It won’t go over well if it lasts longer than that. They can try to drag it out through phase 1 guess, but I think they might even remove it after 1-2 weeks.

You guys are already putting up with it.