Sure but a new alliance presence in Stromgarde definitely changes the geo-political situation. It might be prudent to find common ground and rationalize past grievances in order to present a united front.
I mean the Alliance already has misfit monster races like Worgen, Draenei, Dracthyr, and Pandaren. Only races that isnāt monster like are just Elves on the Horde. Plus given the fact like most other allied races they just end up being forgotten since I mostly see Orcs alot, Blood Elves alot, Vulpera, Trolls of all kinds like Darkspear, and Zandalari, as well as the Dracthyr and sometimes Tauren, Goblin, and Undead while most like Nightborne and Pandaren are extremely rare now in days.
So much like with the Dracthyr and Pandaren. If I ever do see Alteracis they probably be the same like other allied races popular at the start and overtime less. Honestly I donāt see the issue since where else are they suppose to go besides dead.
More like High Elves thanks to Customization Options but with a mix of everything with Void Elves now as Dark Elves, and also Dark Irons with Chao Dwarves but not demonic like just Dwarves that drink fire.
Oh you also forgot about Dracthyr dragons too.
The difference between the hordeās elves and worgen/draenei is that the latter two arenāt so wildly played that they eclipse the racial populations of the others.
To me, itās an aesthetic issue as much as it is a story one. Humans in general are a fantasy staple, but the hordeās supposed to be apart from that. I think it genuinely sucks to see so many blood elves being played. I get why - itās the most humanlike model - but with the way people naturally gravitate toward those aesthetics, I think if people want to play a regular human, they should just go alliance.
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But you said he āhad no ties.ā Thatās what Iām addressing, not to mention that the original lore is he was from Alterac.
He doesnāt have ties to Alterac.
He has no family from Alterac, he had no holdings in Alterac. There is nothing that would make him loyal to anyone from Alterac. If anything Aliden Perenolde would be loyal to him because Aliden was one of his students.
No doubt the bloke had soldiers from Alterac, those that surrendered, under his banner working in the camps, much like Aliden was, but thatās the extent of his relationship with Alterac.
So he has a personal relationship with Alteracās prince, who wants the throne. Said prince is shown in Vanilla, in his āoperations,ā to have gotten his own orc slave/bodyguard and his own captive human woman. To drive the point home sheās literally wearing Tarethaās pendant and the quest that reveals this is called āBlackmooreās Legacy.ā
None of this says āno tiesā to me. He was also from Alterac in the adventure game, which was probably where a lot of these ideas came from in the first place. Hell, as for Golden saying heās from Lordaeron, had that even been established when Vanilla came out? It comes up in Rise of the Lich King, I donāt remember whether it does in the LotC novel.
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Again, he was never from Alterac.
Thereās no lore that says heās from Alterac. The only connection, albeit an extremely loose one, is that he mentored Aliden Perenolde. Thatās it.
Yes, Aliden Perenolde got his hands on the necklace of Taretha Foxton, because at the end of Lord of the Clans, Thrall gives the necklace to Tarethaās parents. It is likely that at some point Aliden robbed, or perhaps even killed the surviving members of the Foxton family (we never learn of their fates after Lord of the Clans), and took the necklace for himself before giving it to his mistress.
But he was from Alterac, in the sense orcs were once addicted to something called the Black Ale.
They consider the connection between Aedelas and Aliden significant enough they point it out in both Vanilla and Cata.
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Black Ale is from Warcraft Adventures, which is non-canon.
But even if it was canon, Black Ale was a gnomish brew that had nothing to do with Alterac.
Are you actually trying to follow the point? Do you think something being ānon-canonā as of a book in 2008 means devs couldnāt have had the prior lore in back of mind in 2002, 2003?
Iāve acknowledged that game, Blackmooreās nationality in it, and the Black Ale arenāt canon. But they were.
It doesnāt matter anyway. His ties to Aliden and his influence on Alidenās MO are stated outright, even with the current lore that heās a Lordaeron guy.
And none of that remotely matters.
Nothing from Warcraft Adventures is canon, none of it, it does not matter if he āwasā in Warcraft Adventures, because Warcraft Adventures was never finished and was never publicly released by Blizzard Entertainment to the public.
As far as canon lore is concerned, Blackmoore is from Lordaeron. End of story.
Final note: In Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, which is canon, Blackmoore is described as being the son of a traitorous Lordaeron general. So thereās that.
So youāre not trying to follow the point at all, youāre just here to be the one who lets us all know Chronicle was a scam?
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As far as I can tell your āpointā is that Aedelas Blackmoore is from Alterac because one of his students was, and uhh, his student had Tarethaās necklace and he had Black Ale and ummā¦ Warcraft Adventures said he was. So there!
And Iāve dismissed that point as factually incorrect because thereās no canon lore that says Blackmoore was from Alterac, Aliden Perenolde was not given Tarethaās necklace by Blackmoore, Black Ale was a gnomish creation with no ties to Alterac (and was also from Warcraft Adventures which is non-canon) and Warcraft Adventures is not a canon lore source.
Also there is a clear canon lore source that states that Blackmoore was from Lordaeron.
As for the Chronicle, the brief mentions of Aedelas Blackmoore in Chronicle Vol II say nothing about where Aedelas Blackmoore was from, only that he was the Lord of Durnholde Keep. So I donāt know why you tried to bring that up.
My point is not that Aedelas Blackmoore is from Alterac. You are operating from a flimsy premise unsupported by my text.
Youāve literally been arguing that the entire time.
I said he was not from Alterac and had no connections to Alterac and youāve gone on an entire spiel since then focusing on how heās from Alterac. You even brought up Warcraft Adventures, pointing out that the game said he was from Alterac.
Just stop. Youāre wrong. Itās okay to be wrong.
I said that he has ties to Alterac by current lore, and that he was from Alterac in older lore. You will find this to be the case if you read slowly and with care.
Donāt tell me what to do.
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He has no ties to Alterac, except one loose one, which is that Aliden Perenolde was his student at one point.
Thatās literally it.
Get off my lawn.
Yeah, his loose tie is that he was the mentor to the only Perenolde heir WoW has ever presented to us alive, and had a clear influence on his MO.
Thatās it, if you ignore the project that was the genesis of his and Thrallās stories and any thematic influence that might have had.
I will now dismantle your sod netting.
What if he was once the son of an Alteraci nobleman who was redeemed for the Alteraci betrayal against the Alliance through service in the Lordaeron military.
That statement could reflect the artifact/residue of a different story.