There is no ‘different story’. Aedelas Blackmoore, in all the universes in which he appears (there are 3) is from Lordaeron.
In 2 of those universes (the main universe and one alternate universe) he trains Thrall to be a gladiator. Only in the main universe does Thrall break free and eventually become the Warchief of the Horde after Doomhammer’s death (in the other he becomes Blackmoore’s loyal gladiator and Thrall is forced to fight this alternate version of himself during Garrosh’s trial after the events of Mists of Pandaria).
In the other he does not, because Thrall dies as an infant in that other universe.
I can, because again we have canon lore confirmation.
As for his father’s treasonous act, it was attempting to sell state secrets. He was executed for his crime and the taint of his father’s actions would continue to dog Aedelas well into his military career.
We know that as of RotLK. I was wondering whether it had come up by the time of the original Syndicate quests, such as in the LotC novel (not the game, where Blackmoore was from Alterac).
The only mention of Blackmoore’s ancestry, prior to Arthas: Rise of the Lich King was the Warcraft Adventures game. The Lord of the Clans novel was based off the narrative that was made for that game, with changes made, and one of them was not mentioning what kingdom Blackmoore was from.
So it was very much an enigma, officially, until Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, where it’s canonized that he’s from Lordaeron, much like his father was.
Keep in mind that the Lord of the Clans novel released before World of Warcraft, the first release of the novel was in 2001. So the lore of World of Warcraft was built around that novel, which is why there was a quest involving Taretha and her pendant in vanilla.
I do keep this in mind, which is why I suggest there may be some significance to this loose tie between Perenolde and Blackmoore, which was first established between the LotC and RotLK novels, and then reinforced in backstory well after RotLK had come out.
You’re seeing something that isn’t there. We know he’s from Lordaeron, he was never from Alterac.
Had Warcraft Adventures released properly then that would be different (as would a number of other things because the story that was available for Warcraft Adventures was very different from what was written in Lord of the Clans) but it did not release. We got Lord of the Clans instead, and Lord of the Clans did not specify where Aedelas came from.
Fast forward to the release of Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, and now we have confirmation. Aedelas Blackmoore and his father were from Lordaeron, not Alterac. End of story.
It was not at all the end of the story of Aedelas and Aliden, because that was still being filled in well after Cata, which is to say RotLK.
They change his nationality in the same retcon where they convict his father of “selling state secrets” (years after Blackmoore’s Legacy was a thing) and I’m seeing things that aren’t there?
What you see that isn’t there is my insistence this means Aedelas is from Alterac by current canon. I’ve been over this already.
Because for whatever damn reason, you think Aedelas Blackmoore is from Alterac when he isn’t, and all because a game that was never officially released, and was never canon lore said he was.
You’re the one who can’t seem to get past their own headcanon to see that.
This forum isn’t for headcanon and your own personal stories, it’s for official lore, and official lore states Aedelas Blackmoore is from Lordaeron and has always been from Lordaeron.
You can’t get past the idea I’m pushing a headcanon when I was actually the first between us to point out what Rise of the Lich King said. You actually haven’t contributed a single factoid here that I didn’t mention first. What you’ve contributed is a theory (headcanon!) about events between LotC and Vanilla.
“Official lore” includes lore that’s “non canon” now, otherwise known as “over 80% of this franchise.” I can’t help you if you’re gonna pretend the Black Ale wasn’t any kind of stepping stone to the Blood of Mannoroth in the development of the narrative.
And yet every single time I mention that Aedelas Blackmoore is from Lordaeron you cry foul and act like he’s really from Alterac because of Warcraft Adventures.
You even push the idea that his nationality was ‘retconned’ except, news flash, Warcraft Adventures was never canon, so there was never a retcon about his nationality. It was never mentioned, period, until Arthas: Rise of the Lich King.
If you’re gonna act like saying it was “never mentioned” is closer to the truth than saying it was retconned, then I see how you think anything I’ve done is “acting like he’s (present tense) really from Alterac.”
What’s an example of me “crying foul” on you repeating what I pointed out in my first post on this subject?
The Lord of the Clans novel doesn’t mention his nationality.
World of Warcraft quests in vanilla never mention his nationality.
The dungeon journal for the Caverns of Time dungeon never mentions his nationality.
The first and only mention of his nationality in official lore is in Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, where it states clearly that he was from Lordaeron, and that his father was also from Lordaeron. Before that book released the only thing we had to go with was headcanon about where he might possibly be from.
And headcanon is fine in 90% of cases, it’s what we use to piece story beats together when there isn’t a connecting thread, like what I did with respect to Taretha’s necklace. How did Aliden Perenolde get his hands on it? Officially we know that Thrall gave the necklace to Taretha’s parents at the end of Lord of the Clans. So for Aliden to have it, there are three possibilities.
He or his goons robbed and then killed the Foxton family and took the necklace as loot.
He or his goons within the Syndicate found the necklace after the Foxton family was already killed by someone or something else. Given that the undead scourge ravaged Lordaeron and there were Ogres and Blackrock Orcs in Alterac, there’s no shortage of threats in the region.
He bought the necklace from the Foxton family.
Out of the three options, only the first two are likely to be the case and you can use whichever one you think makes the most sense ‘until’ Blizzard releases some form of canon lore (be it a paragraph in a book, a note in-game or a quest) that clearly states how they got the necklace. When they do that, even if you don’t like it, you can’t use your headcanon anymore, because official canon > headcanon every time.
And since you’re still acting like your headcanon is king, I’m going to wrap this up with what I said several posts ago.
I wouldn’t say they favour humans. There have been plenty of human villains throughout WoW and Warcraft history, and humans have copped a serve or two in regards to major upheavals too. Yes, the Horde have had two genocidal warchiefs, but that isn’t really ‘favouritism’ by a long stretch.
Not everything has to be equal when it comes to storytelling. Just because the Horde had two horrible leaders doesn’t mean the Alliance must also have two horrible leaders to compensate.