You say that but I’m not the one who had to transfer to horde for Bgs ;)10/27/2018 12:24 PMPosted by Oozo10/27/2018 12:09 PMPosted by TortuyoMost the time ive been in bgs with jugga shes guarding stuff all by herself.
Free kill :)
Man this kid is trying hard to flex on Juga....or for Juga.
Lol key word is trying.10/27/2018 12:31 PMPosted by DangerjoshMan this kid is trying hard to flex on Juga....or for Juga.
10/27/2018 12:57 PMPosted by JugajrLol key word is trying.10/27/2018 12:31 PMPosted by DangerjoshMan this kid is trying hard to flex on Juga....or for Juga.
You want me to 1v1 this guy for you jugaa?
Haha I’m good.10/27/2018 01:23 PMPosted by Demoniclily10/27/2018 12:57 PMPosted by Jugajr...Lol key word is trying.
You want me to 1v1 this guy for you jugaa?
Because, the best way to demonstrate that you aren't riding the coat-tails of your team is to have someone else duel for you. :P
This DK has been horde since it was created, although it used to be undead (and orc before that).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0He6ZLq1mE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHiOTJmB_i8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhYvuvsAfI
Some 1v1s and 1v2s against glads/duelists in there. I really don't need someone like Jugaa telling me that I'm having some long losing streaks in BGs as alliance because I'm not good enough. ;)
This DK has been horde since it was created, although it used to be undead (and orc before that).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0He6ZLq1mE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHiOTJmB_i8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhYvuvsAfI
Some 1v1s and 1v2s against glads/duelists in there. I really don't need someone like Jugaa telling me that I'm having some long losing streaks in BGs as alliance because I'm not good enough. ;)
So Juga hurt your feelings
Lol don’t act like you have to prove anything to me. You gave your viewpoint and I gave mine.10/27/2018 02:02 PMPosted by OozoBecause, the best way to demonstrate that you aren't riding the coat-tails of your team is to have someone else duel for you. :P
This DK has been horde since it was created, although it used to be undead (and orc before that).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0He6ZLq1mE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHiOTJmB_i8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhYvuvsAfI
Some 1v1s and 1v2s against glads/duelists in there. I really don't need someone like Jugaa telling me that I'm having some long losing streaks in BGs as alliance because I'm not good enough. ;)
Would a call to arms on horde for merc, only available to decent enough rbg rated players help with the alliance. Reward can be a faster conquest cap and extra gold or something. Either way, i decided to do a few bg's today for a change and noticed it's not even worth it. I'm happier slaying dragons then watch alliance with no concept of staying as a group, look after your healers, kill enemy healers, do big cc. Rot the enemy team to pressure enemy healers, setup a kill chain so someone who is overextended explodes. All that good stuff, cause currently i just see alliance running around with no sense of pvp, kill a blood dk, running around with no direction while horde are doing maxdps and crushing our team. I just look at it and think is it worth being here, then afk out. Never queue again.
So much for “have to pve to pvp” Here we have two heroic/mythic raiders about 380 ilvl saying they don’t want to pvp.
10/26/2018 09:58 PMPosted by JugajrHow do you investigate who turns warmode off and on and when?
I "hire" a bunch of "agents" to spy, er, give me reports on the the faction capitals in various realms, the only shards which have both those in and those not in war mode on them. They count the numbers of each in, say, the main auction house. This gives me a quantitative estimate of the percentage of people in war mode.
I try to confirm the quantitative estimates by getting a qualitative feel by venturing into both shard sets. For example, sometimes I'll run Call to Arms in RP shards, and sometimes in Normal shards.
I've been doing this for months on the RP realm set, where it's particularly easy to get a representative estimate since the majority of war mode RP shard players are from Emerald Dream. The numbers do not vary much from week to week, though there are time of day dependencies. I've been doing it for a few weeks on Normal shards, plus there are more normal realms, so my estimates are less accurate there, which is why I give a broader range for them.
Both the quantitative estimates and the qualitative assessments confirm that there is a war mode imbalance toward the Horde, but it's mild on the RP shard set and much more severe on the Normal shard set.
10/27/2018 02:32 PMPosted by BloodrusherWould a call to arms on horde for merc, only available to decent enough rbg rated players help with the alliance.
Absolutely not, no. The last thing most of the few Alliance still in war mode want to do is fight alongside Horde.
What would help would be to let Alliance take Call to Arms more than once a week.
10/27/2018 02:00 AMPosted by Muffindiving...
Faction imbalance was much less severe before the mercenary option than it is now. There are other problems as well, but merc mode certainly contributes.
This is based on what data?
Warcraftrealms and similar sites.
People out in the world questing and what not count as well. Unless you have people planted everywhere there’s no way for you to know.10/27/2018 04:08 PMPosted by Yarrow10/26/2018 09:58 PMPosted by JugajrHow do you investigate who turns warmode off and on and when?
I "hire" a bunch of "agents" to spy, er, give me reports on the the faction capitals in various realms, the only shards which have both those in and those not in war mode on them. They count the numbers of each in, say, the main auction house. This gives me a quantitative estimate of the percentage of people in war mode.
I try to confirm the quantitative estimates by getting a qualitative feel by venturing into both shard sets. For example, sometimes I'll run Call to Arms in RP shards, and sometimes in Normal shards.
I've been doing this for months on the RP realm set, where it's particularly easy to get a representative estimate since the majority of war mode RP shard players are from Emerald Dream. The numbers do not vary much from week to week, though there are time of day dependencies. I've been doing it for a few weeks on Normal shards, plus there are more normal realms, so my estimates are less accurate there, which is why I give a broader range for them.
Both the quantitative estimates and the qualitative assessments confirm that there is a war mode imbalance toward the Horde, but it's mild on the RP shard set and much more severe on the Normal shard set.
10/27/2018 04:51 AMPosted by MiadraTake a look at WoWprogress. You will notice that only 3 Alliance guilds are in the top 20, when only weeks ago it was 5. What is happening is that with pve racials benefitting horde more for the raid, more and more raiding guilds went horde. When more and more raiding guilds went horde, more and more people followed. So the remaining Alliance guilds were finding fewer and fewer people to recruit from, so they too are switching to horde.
I agree with you on long term movements, but racials haven't changed within the last few weeks.
What has changed is Azerite accumulation from world quests. I suspect the top Horde PVE raiding guilds are doing world quests in war mode for the 10% bonus, while the Alliance guilds are not. That by now has probably resulted in one or two Azerite levels difference, which would make a huge difference in a progression raid. I bet almost everyone has Azerite traits that they activated within the last couple of Azerite levels, or that they will activate within the next couple.
[quote="207682597807"]because hey, who is unaffected by rated content or pve?
unless you are a random bg only hero, you probably are.
Racials affect random battlegrounds too. If I weren't a void elf for RP reasons, I'd be a night elf and be a noticeably better flag guard, for example, nerfed as shadowmeld has been.
10/27/2018 04:25 PMPosted by JugajrPeople out in the world questing and what not count as well. Unless you have people planted everywhere there’s no way for you to know.
Do you know a lot of people who switch their war mode setting to go to the auction house? I don't know anyone who does that.
Edit: and even if you did, why would you expect this to affect RP shards and Normal shards differently?
What are you even talking about? I said out in the world you won’t see everyone.10/27/2018 04:37 PMPosted by Yarrow10/27/2018 04:25 PMPosted by JugajrPeople out in the world questing and what not count as well. Unless you have people planted everywhere there’s no way for you to know.
Do you know a lot of people who switch their war mode setting to go to the auction house? I don't know anyone who does that.
Edit: and even if you did, why would you expect this to affect RP shards and Normal shards differently?
10/27/2018 08:08 AMPosted by JugajrAh so you are going to ignore 3s, where the majority of pvpers hang out?
You must be kidding. Most PVP folks hate arenas with a passion - even a lot of the arena folks will happily admit that they'd avoid arenas if they didn't have to do it for quickest gear progression.
I would agree that arenas are relatively balanced. In fact, balancing around arenas is a big part of the reason why the forms of PVP that people actually like to do - random battlegrounds and world PVP - are so unbalanced.
Ideally Blizzard would balance around 40v40 battlegrounds. Even balancing around 10v10 battlegrounds would help.
3s is the most played rated bracket.10/27/2018 04:48 PMPosted by Yarrow10/27/2018 08:08 AMPosted by JugajrAh so you are going to ignore 3s, where the majority of pvpers hang out?
You must be kidding. Most PVP folks hate arenas with a passion - even a lot of the arena folks will happily admit that they'd avoid arenas if they didn't have to do it for quickest gear progression.
I would agree that arenas are relatively balanced. In fact, balancing around arenas is a big part of the reason why the forms of PVP that people actually like to do - random battlegrounds and world PVP - are so unbalanced.
Ideally Blizzard would balance around 40v40 battlegrounds. Even balancing around 10v10 battlegrounds would help.