That’s exactly what they are saying. I guess we just aren’t getting each others argument. I think anti flyers who choose to fly are hypocrites. you don’t. That’s cool 
Hilarious how she ignores my complete destruction of her argument, forcing her to look inward at her own “hypocritcal practices” if you LALALA loud enough and plug ur ears it doesn’t exist right Starling?
Me? You have to reply to the actual comment.
And thats fine to disagree. I just know that words have meaning and choose to use them as intended. Im especially not willing to misuse words to insult others who just differ in opinions
Im very pro fly, i dont think those that are against it and do it are all hypocrites. I welcome differing opinions
I did, you just ignored it.
Blizzard shrank the world. The world still felt quite large in BC/wrath. Those were designed with flying in mind. What is the difference in riding over or around a hill vs flying over it? Are you going to engage with every mob on your path? Are you going to talk to everyone you see? I don’t see any difference.
The quest you’re going to is the content. Not the way you get to it.
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A lot of these pro-flyers are incapable of thinking of this topic in anything but simplistic terms, I’ve noticed.
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lol You are seriously trying to compare those things to FLIGHT IN A VIDEO GAME??? O.k. good luck with that.
Anti-flyers are only capable of thinking in selfish terms of “I can’t have fun unless everyone plays my way”.
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Yes because they are things that while difficult, can be mitigated yet we choose not to. why? because of convienence. Take that conveiience away and a lot of us would be just fine with saving the planet/not flying. It’s a good comparison. You should be driving electric, using paper grocery bags, using those cardboard straws or metal.
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When flying isn’t available I don’t have a choice in how I play. When flying is available you have a choice to stay on the ground.
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You want to get into a long winded argument about need vs. want and I am not going there. If you fly and still rail against it you are a hypocrite. Period. The other stuff you can have at with someone else. I already said we all are hypocrites in certain areas. Some people just can’t see it I guess.
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And there we go. Destroyed because you can’t face your own hypocritcal practices that can be avoided. Welcome to the party, you are just as dirty as the rest of us. And you can’t face that.
then why are you here making a stink? You should see exactly why some people want flying gone or to keep pathfinder, being a hypocrit has nothing to do with it.
I mean I’m not looking to speak for anyone here but truthfully the only thing I hate about flying in these latest expansions has to do with the serious repgating that was done. I understand they wanted us to be able to experience the content, but the problem is that not everyone has the time to sit there and farm rep daily.
Anti-flyers want people to do what they want. Not fly.
Pro-flyers encourage anti-flyers to not fly. Which is what anti-flyers want.
Yet Anti-fliers are still unhappy. Which seems to be their natural state.
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Anyone that wants flying gone is extremely selfish.
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I’m happy with flight being timegated. I actually think it’s a good compromise. The whole pathfinder avenue can be adjusted though, and I would timegate more, but you guys are the ones unhappy with the status quo.
Flying itself, has always presented an issue, when I hear people say, flying should be unlocked from the very start of an expansion, I feel like they probably didn’t play on pvp servers or not for very long.
Now with warmode it’s easier and getting flying isn’t as big of a deal because you can’t have people ganking you from rooftops you couldn’t possibly reach because you didn’t hit max level in the first few days.
That being said, I do often opt out of flying and still choose to run on the ground despite having it when I’m in an area full of quests. The issue with the arguement that it doesn’t impact anybody else, is that it doesn’t take into account gather professions, questing or just the social and pvp aspects of the game.
If you chose to ignore flying when it was an option to have, you’re shooting yourself in the face, so it becomes a forced choice because you want to be able to get to a rare spawn before it’s murdered or the NPC’s you need to kill for a quest, etc etc.
It’s nice for a time when running into people questing and having more interactions that way, and if someone chooses to pvp, they can’t just fly 10,000 feet into the air afterwards to avoid everyone.
Everyone wonders why mob density is so high, and I’m fairly certain it’s to try and overcome that once flying is out, people divebomb the objective and then fly safely away to the next one with no issue. And they’ve had some ways of making flight more risky like mobs that attack you in the air after you’ve flown for so long, but then you essentially just pick up the cadence of touching down every 10 seconds and it’s like they don’t even exist.
They could put flying mobs everywhere, but then you’ve got these crowed flying skies that look awful to look at and take away from how the area looks. I suppose they could just periodically spawn and you’d have to fly to avoid them or get dismounted, that would be a fun addition.
The reason flying is a cheat code in a lot of games is it because it circumvents most dangers in any given world and it’s a bear to design around without it looking weird or sloppy. I mean, I’d like to see where, if you were flying around on a dragon, you’d get knocked out of the air by a balista shot or something like that.
In pvp flying has 1 risk, which is that some player with a netgun might shoot you down. But since the gun has a cast time and people’s mount can range the gun before the cast time goes off, you have to really catch someone by surprise or afk to nab them down. And in PVE, well, the biggest danger is that you afk fly yourself into an ocean or something.
I honestly wouldn’t mind if they had an actual flightless expansion, they tried in WoD but the tears were too plentiful. It was a nice experience while it lasted though.
Maybe with the server merges they talked about, things will feel less empty with flying, but I’m good with waiting on it for a while in each expansion. Though, I think they could probably switch it up from a rep grind with no story each time and change it to a quest like the surumar quest line and I don’t think anyone would be as offended.
That way when your friend comes back or people who quit because they can’t fly come back, they could just do all the quests in a row and not be time gated behind dailies you have to log in for everyday to stay on top of.
I know flying is here to stay, and of course I use the advantage that’s present, but it would be cool if they added some kind of risk to using it someday.
Um. You’re the one/s upset that flying exists.
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