Thrall adopted the title of “warchief,” but he certainly didn’t plan on perpetual war. It was a nod to cultural history, not a statement of how he intended to rule.
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Maybe not. But that ultimately is how it turned out especially with a whole blood oath of the Horde thing.
And look here, we are now in the time when blind obedience is frowned upon and breaking oaths that hamstrung us to a certain way of living might be the correct course of action.
I feel the Warchief position was emblematic to the Horde, because it was built on personal oaths of loyalty. Not on historic institutions of power like the Alliance, but out of each Horde member’s personal decision and enforced by their sense of honor.
I felt it made a nice contrast against the well-established, methodical, but slower council/kingdom structures of the Alliance, giving each their own distinct theme.
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Yeah, that never made sense to me. Like…why would my goblin give a rat butt in what Trolls want outside certain aspects
Welcome to the United nations but in warcraft. Warcraft politics is just as boring and muddy as real life.
There was also the fact that he was chosen to be Warchief by a dying Doomhammer. Thrall did not take the title like his predecessor did.
Likewise with Garrosh. Thrall stepped down and named Garrosh is successor. Vol’jin indirectly fought to gain the title with his rebellion. Then Vol’jin passed it on to Sylvanas on his death bed.
Kinda weird how many official Warchiefs did not earn the title through ‘honorable combat’.
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idk, i think freeing the orcs from slavery counts.
We aren’t allowed to have a warchief anymore because girly elf players whine about being bad guys.
Warchief =/= bad guy.
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Warchief was a title made by Gul’dan to give Blackhand military authority in the first war. Rather than “Warchief” tossed upon any Horde figure head, a title of Chieftain suffices for the Orcs.
So, maybe a “Khan” as a new title.
Already taken by the centaur. Why should the Horde use centaur titles?
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Why not? How many kings out there that aren’t alliance?
I mean is the mighty Horde really going to backup from a title just because it’s history is problematic?
It’s good branding is what it is.
Trouble is it’s a kind of bizarre position world building wise. There’s no term limits and even the implied “For Life” limit doesn’t count when candidates for the position include the living dead.
Figure the Horde should take a page from Rome and have it be a Dictator position someone’s elevated to in times of war. Presumably via election by the council.
And that’d be cool but again I’m not even sure who’s on the council, nor how they problem solve.
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You’re right about the branding of the title, its a cool title. But the problem is throughout the history with the title became a stigma of a death sentence to the character an expansion later :D.
If the Lore was consistent and Blizzard hasn’t spent their resources de-nutting faction leaders, then yeah, I’m for following being under King and War Chief.
I mean only two died.
The other retired then came back and more or less is Warchief just without the title. The most recent short story says the Kor’kon obey Thrall without question and really who’s going to question him?
And Sylvanas just got put in time out.
Garrosh went berserk and Vol’Jin got got by a trash mob.
2/4 aint that bad
In lore four technically died. Blackhand was killed by Ogrim, Ogrim died while helping Thrall free the other orcs from the camps, Garrosh died in WoD, Vol’jin died to a generic felguard
Well, five, if we count Ner’zhul in Beyond the Dark Portal, when later he got tortured by Kil’jaeden and his physical body was torn apart and his soul was turned into the Lich King
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We’ve had Khan since… At least tbc.
I’ll have it unlocked once old reps go account wide.
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Warchief has long since lost its association with its origin. I agree Khan is a good equivalent for what the Warchief is supposed to be but it’s an unecessary distinction, the Warchief title is symbolic to the Horde.
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Khan is a horde pvp title.
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It is one for the Alliance as well. It is from getting the mastery meta achievements for the following BG’s
Battle for Gilneas
Isle of Conquest
Twin Peaks
Silvershard Mines
Temple of Kotmogu
Side note: None of those BG’s have reps tied to them. I think you got Khan confused with Battlemaster. As that one requires the mastery achievements from
Warsong Gulch
Arathi Basin
Alterac Valley
Eye of the Storm
The first three of which have reps.
That would be impossible as achievements didn’t exist until Wrath.
And based on the above, Khan as a title came with MoP. Specifically patch 5.2.
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