I don’t recall such a quest back in Vanilla. When was this?
Okay with it? Ignore it? Not only are the events in question used repeatedly to demonize the Forsaken in and out of the story, but the in game narrative has us go in and purpously take out Putriss and his allies in the RAS.
Which is all perfectly well and fine. But not when it’s only the Forsaken that get hit with the conspiracy bat while all the stuff that gets done “out in the open” for the Alliance gets increasingly handwaved away/justified by the in game narrarive and the audience.
And the only reason that the real world comparison was made is because apparently people find the very concept of such a conspiracy completely laughable and outlandish despite the fact that it’s happened countless times in our own world. So laughable that they can’t possibly understand how it could occur in a fictional narrative.
I don’t see how it is ‘willful’ when you just kept lauding Blizzard’s writing for as being great for placing it there. Are these not good presentations?
No its very much clear to me now that the Alliance truly is the Ethno Cleansing Imperialistic racist faction that it is described as by the posters here.
If anything I think Blizzard should tone it down. Alliance is just too dark, I don’t think its appropriate for the age group this game is made for.
It was in Edge of Night, but NPC’s in Vanilla would also constantly say that they were developing the Blight under Sylvanas’ orders, and part of their campaigns into Hillsbrad and Silverpine were based on finding plague ingredients and test subjects.
Combine that with all the experimentation happening in the Undercity right out in the open in full public view (The Apothecarium and Sylvanas’ chambers were in the same part of the city for god’s sake) and the notion that Sylvanas had nothing to do with it was absurd and desperate even back in Vanilla.
Sometimes I think that I am literally the only one who remembers all this, or hasn’t actively chosen to simply ignore it.
It’s because people generally consider pulling peasants out of their homes, burning them down, trucking them to a sewer so that you can cut into their damn skulls and guts while they’re still awake, shove acid down their throats, and lobotomize them to be your mindslave so that everyone can gawk at you like a freaking animal to be worse than a tauren camp getting burned down or a bunch of blood elf shopkeepers getting killed
The chronic, unnecessary, and unmitigated cruelty and depravity of the Forsaken elevates their atrocities beyond those of all other playable factions and it isn’t even freaking close.
You complain that people are more horrified by the Forsaken having a quarter of their city dedicated to recreating Saw movies than they are by a bunch of human raids against Horde border outposts? My only response is boo-fricking-hoo. Maybe you should get with the program instead of whining that people with an actual moral compass are wrong.
The point of the comparison is that the general population and most of the government had no idea about Agent Orange until after it’s use and we’re fed contradicting reports as to who knew what that weren’t settled until documents were declassified this past decade.
Yeah it almost like there wasn’t always nearly ten active night elf thread in which we can say anything without getting attack by 5 poster at the same time.
Just to be clear: you’re bringing up a 17th century event to assign the contemporary state of Sweden sins via a war crime? This is a fair and adequate threading of guilt?
The Horde is using local proxies to engage in ethnic cleansing against indigenous peoples in Lordaeron for the sake of the Horde’s colonial interests. That they found an indigenous minority to support them doesn’t make it any less colonial.
It becomes even more obvious in Cataclysm where the presence of Orcish overseers including the Orc Warchief are constant presences in the Forsaken’s campaign against the indigenous humans of Lordaeron and Gilneas.
And what indigenous support the Horde DID have had infecting people with psychotic hell-energy as a prerequisite.
It’s moved on a bit but the Blight isn’t even a big deal.
When the Blight was described as something the equivalent of the Forsaken’s own version of the Plague, that was pretty disturbing but then it ended up just being Mustard Gas. Which in the context of Azeroth is largely irrelevant, a fact the writers don’t acknowledge by constantly painting it as a horrifying thing.
Whenever Blight makes it’s presence, there’s a character going “oh no that’s horrible” but then you’ve got Jaina summoning massive tidal waves that would’ve consumed Kalimdor and killed everyone or Shamans collapsing entire fortresses onto themselves by having the ground open up from under them and everyone just goes “oh that’s neat.”
Mustard gas just doesn’t compare to sorcery capable of wiping out entire armies in seconds.
He’d been out chasing the orcs after they fled Lordaeron, but lost them and much of his own armada in the same storm that drove the orcs’ damaged ships to the Darkspear Isles. Then he returned to Kul Tiras, learned about what happened to Lordaeron and Dalaran (including Jaina taking a bunch of ships from Kul tiras to evacuate refugees), and took the remainder of the Kul Tiran fleet to look for Jaina and those other survivors.
Ostensibly he was still on the same standing “mission” to hunt down Thrall’s Horde as before, but at the time he set sail again to search for Jaina’s refugees, Daelin had no way of really knowing if the orcs had actually survived the storm that split his own armada, or if they’d been sunk by it. Nobody in the Alliance ever heard again from the Kul Tiran forces that had landed on the Darkspear Isles (as most got killed by the orcs and trolls, and any who didn’t would have died when the islands sank), so as far as Daelin knew at the time both the orcs’ ships and his own lost vessels had been wrecked at sea.
Naturally as soon as he learned otherwise during his search for the Alliance survivors, he changed his priorities, to the point that he was effectively putting those same survivors at risk by using them and their resources to wage his own war on the Horde and trying to arrest Jaina along with Rexxar and his other Horde allies when she tried to talk Daelin down from his actions.
