You should play a game called Darkwood, which is probably the best horror game that’s ever come out in the past decade. Definitely up there.
It’s crowning achievement is that it has no scripted jumpscares in it yet remains one of the most pants-crappingly frightening games I’ve every played in part because of just how well it encapsulates the simple primal fear of being alone in the wilderness in the dark.
I have been more frightened of literally nothing happening in Darkwood than all the jumpscares that a conventional horror game can throw at me.
Honestly my favorite Horror Game is Papers Please. If you’ve never heard you play a border guard at some fictional authoritarian country.
You’re this small gear in a huge machine that is integral to people’s lives. You’ve your own family your just trying to feed and any act of kindness offered to a stranger may hurt them.
The darkness of the wood is a terrifying thing. But the darkness of the human heart is something entirely different. We’re tribal creatures but nothing ever triumphs over the self preservation instinct, and how it stretches to home and family.
Thats the most terrifying thing to me. And it’s on display in WoW. How not fear, but love, can be weaponized and used as fuel for the greatest atrocities.
Well… Forsaken try to kill all the humans in Hillsbrad and when the refugees flee to Fenris isle the Worgen give them the power to become worgen to avoid being raised unto undeath against their will.
Can you draw some parity to this to what the Alliance has done?
Its not the players fault the writers made the Horde actions so despicable.
When has Alliance tried to wipe out peasants in the life of wow and pursue any who flee to kill?
Purge of Dalaran. Literally killing shopkeepers and people trying to get money of their bank. Targets their means of escape.
Stonespire tribe, wiped out by Dwarves just so they can dig for artifacts.
Taurajo, we literally get shown the final moments of non-combatant NPCs like the leatherworker try to defend themselves and hold off soldiers so others can escape, even if they just have a skinning knife.
Literally everything Daelin tried to do and the obvious threat posed by the lingering Kul Tiran forces. The guy Jaina had to stop and accidentally killed was trying to start a war with the Orcs because he thought Thrall was the only good one.
The Alliance also had planned to attack Sen’jin Village, as shown in a quest where its one of the plans the Horde champion burns.
I’ll give it a whirl but it seems a bit Sunless Sea or Darkest Dungeons for me. There’s that perspective that removes you from proceedings.
Like for me the best horror game ever is Specs Op: The Line. That’s technically a war shooter but I think real horror lingers in the back of your mind. And makes you question yourself.
More fun Halloween horror is cool. I love RE7 for example and it has one of the most terrifying moments I’ve ever experienced in gaming. But it was fun haunted house fun. Some lingering ‘maybe that dolls behind my closet’ fun but not that lingering fear.
That fear that makes you think about the world and go “Oh ish… am I the monster?”.
4 dead and rest imprisoned after these said people were involved in a supposed conspiracy. Not merely for existing. According to some novel or another they were released so
True but this didn’t seem like an offical order by any leader or some sort of war effort. For all we know the dwarf leader did this on his own and in the end he died for it.
civilians were allowed to flee the fighting by the Alliance commander.
The reason Kultiras hated the Alliance in BFA is specifically because the Alliance DIDNT help Daelin.
Which humans during what time? Cata?
Here is the thing that I find funny for the people complaining about Alliance being racist and prone to ethnic cleansing only the Horde seems to be accomplishing it and I don’t hear a peep of protest from the Horde players.
I will say that I wish the Alliance was as dark as some players here imagine they are, that would make them less one dimensional.
Thank you for proving my point.
These have been argued ad nauseum in other threads already.
Kul Tirans left the Alliance because the others did not want to send forces across the ocean just to avenge their Lord Admiral’s death.
Multiple civilians were killed as per Horde questing, where we actually talk to their spirits. It was a retcon that the civilians were given a proper escape opportunity outside of a gap in the ranks.
It astounds me how interesting you can make forsaken-eque characters and how many there are that are very fun and intriguing, and the writers just don’t use em. The writers are simply not interested in them. It baffles the mind.
From a storytelling perspective, forsaken are a smorgasbord for character inspiration. But instead we get Calia. It is super obvious where the comfort zone with the current writers is, and it is all good divined by god to be moral cinnamon buns. And it’s frustrating.
Never forget Golden wrote in a rando nelf baby for Mia Greymane to protect just to tell you she’s good, she’s super good, she’s the goodest of queens.
Yes. That doesn’t contradict the Alliance’s account. IIRC another Tauren questgiver even acknowledges the presence of the gap in the ranks.
You can say that the Alliance was super naughty for attacking Taurajo or whatever but don’t throw around the word retcon as a free pejorative for something that you don’t like. It’s lazy and it drags down the discourse of the forum (lmao)
Wowpedia refers to it as a possible retcon, because “Hawthorne had ensured that the civilians of Camp Taurajo would be allowed to leave unharmed” doesn’t really sound like “left a gap in the ranks as you otherwise kill a bunch in an event referred to in game as a massacre”.
Its wild that we both have access to the same information and yet yours takes are far more different.
I am getting tired of these debates…
Day in day out… One Horde posters claims Alliance can never be allowed to do wrong, they aren’t allowed to be evil or be as bad as the Horde.
“Fine ok. That should be addressed.”
Then we have other posters like you or Waygs who claim Alliance is killing kids and civilians wholesale like the Horde is… if anything Alliance doesn’t have any moral ground to stand on!
“Ok so the current representation of the Alliance is dark enough for you then? We don’t need to go darker?”
Its baffling. it really is.
Its like trying to argue both sides of argument in the same conversation.
Droite who constantly goes on and on about the Alliance Moral Absolutism and the other people with their wild Jaina is child killer takes. ugh… screw it the leave it to the writers. Maybe they are the ones who have the right idea after all.
I think that the writers acknowledging some of the common pain points fans have regarding the story would be a good thing, even if they don’t necessarily adopt all the recommended “solutions.” Even amidst the differing opinions, many people seem to feel that the current writing needs some work.
