The High Elf Love Thread 🥰

[Kyuu-bronzebeard]

That’s strange. Why would High Elves use the phoenix as the racial symbol when creating Thori’dal?

Or they modified it later.

Can’t let them haters knock you down.

I’m a Blood Elf. Everyone is a hater.

[Leinadh-stormrage]

@Guzzle-barthilas

It’s never stated anywhere the high elves created it

Well, it must have been created before the Sunwell’s destruction, because “the energy of the Sunwell courses through Thori’dal”, which implies it was created before the whole Blood Elf schism.

@Guzzle-barthilas

high elves never used the phoenix

[Guzzle-barthilas]

Well, it must have been created before the Sunwell’s destruction, because “the energy of the Sunwell courses through Thori’dal”, which implies it was created before the whole Blood Elf schism.

You also acquire from killing Kil’jaedon, which immediately preceded the restoration of the Sunwell.

And if you note, I used the word used not use. The symbol of Quel’thalas prior to the Third War was the unicorn.

I dunno why they use it now, it might the same reason the blood elves do, it might be just because it’s an easily re-coloured asset.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

Surely you’re not suggesting that they might have cut some corners.

Did I manage to keep a straight face there?

[Guzzle-barthilas]

I know, right?

I guess it’s easier to make the birdy blue instead of drawing this on a bunch of stuff.

~https://i.redd.it/sff8t779mjf11.jpg

[Kyuu-bronzebeard]

Well, it must have been created before the Sunwell’s destruction, because “the energy of the Sunwell courses through Thori’dal”, which implies it was created before the whole Blood Elf schism.

Again. It could have been modified. Weapons are sometimes modified in these ways.

[Alamara-goldrinn (Alamara)]

Surely you’re not suggesting that they might have cut some corners.

They sure did, but that does not make it not canon.

[Guzzle-barthilas]

You get that’s what we’re saying, right?

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

Frankly, I don’t really care about what heraldry what group used when, I just was in the mood to make a snarky comment about blizz

[Alamara-goldrinn (Alamara)]

You get that’s what we’re saying, right?

Then why say that high elves don’t use the phoenix if they clearly do?

And not only in those assets. There’s the Lohn’goron bow, Thori’dal and probably other stuff with blue phoenixes around. Heck, the double spread image of Quel’thalas in Chronicle 1, before blood elves, has a tower with the phoenix on top of it.

[Guzzle-barthilas]

Then why say that high elves don’t use the phoenix if they clearly do?

I dunno why they use it now, it might the same reason the blood elves do, it might be just because it’s an easily re-coloured asset.

I never said that they didn’t. What I said was this:

And if you note, I used the word used not use . The symbol of Quel’thalas prior to the Third War was the unicorn.

As we can see on the Elven destroyer in the screenshot I linked here.

~https://i.redd.it/sff8t779mjf11.jpg

That’s been a fairly long-running thing in lore circles I’ve known it’s mentioned on multiple wowpedia articles, if there’s newer information I’m happy to admit I’m wrong. I’m looking at this image of Quel’thalas and I don’t see any phoenixes. Do you mean that one right out in the background with two prongs?

~https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/877484.jpg

Because ornamental wings aren’t the same as “phoenix”.

[Lorithyn-agamaggan (Lorithyn)]

@Guzzle-barthilas

As we can see on the Elven destroyer in the screenshot I linked here.

Interestingly enough, these things are all over the Alliance zones in Classic WoW

[Alamara-goldrinn (Alamara)]

As we can see on the Elven destroyer in the screenshot I linked here.

There’s not a single canon source that the unicorn was the symbol of Quel’thalas.

It was in the boats, yes, but that does not make it the national symbol. It could have other meanings. It could be the flag of that particular fleet that was sent to help the Alliance back then. It hasn’t been seen again either before or since.

[Elyssaria-kargath]

I’d be good with using the unicorn as their group symbol. Be nice to clean it up a bit, maybe a rampant unicorn or something?

[Alamara-goldrinn (Alamara)]

I’d love to see it have a greater meaning, but Blizzard never built up on it. And all art of Silvermoon since TBC, even before the Scourge, portrayed it pretty much as it is today. Even the destroyed sections of the city look just like current belf architecture.

[Lorithyn-agamaggan (Lorithyn)]

There’s no canon sources, but it seems like a logical conclusion. The Alliance High Elves still use it as a symbol and actually have unicorn mounts, and the unicorn is seen on their ships from when their entire kingdom was allied with the Alliance

I blame this on Blizz.

[Elyssaria-kargath]

They don’t really have the passion for wow like the fan base does tbh.

[Lorithyn-agamaggan (Lorithyn)]

Depends somewhat on the topic. I know Ion is passionate for the raiding scene, but not so much on the nuances of High/Blood Elf lore and storytelling

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

You people are bad. That is all I can say. Who the hell advocates for less options??

Why do you treat allied races as if there are limited number of them and once all the “slots” are filled no more will ever be made???

Make forest/frost trolls an allied race. Make taunka an allied race. Same for high elves, gilbins, jinyu/ankoan, hozen, mogu, furbolg, ogres, mok’nathal, arrakoa, sethrak, san’layn, vrykul, tuskarr, yuangol, and titanforged dwarves.

If they can fix the mount issue also make dryads/keepers and centaurs allied races.

You planning on writing the check to Blizzard to make these niche ARs?

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

I always figured the Unicorn was the old Farstriders Symbol.