I would like tolāvir too but honestly I think at a certain point we overstep things. While I would definitely play a tolāvir given the chance I believe they should instead be part of a new faction. The āprotectors of azerothā.
This faction would ideally combine magni, khadgar, the 5 dragonflights, all of the titan watchers and keepers, and the titanforged.
I wish blizzard hadnāt setup the allied race system to at the very least seem like a finite thing limited allied race slots. People get the idea from slots because when people look at the Allied race panel, there is only a certain amount of slots and races are usually an offshoot. What I wish is that weād just get numerous races made to be playable without necessarily having to worry about slots. For example: The kelfin literally have every reason to join the horde that the Vulpera do. Ogres and Taunka have technically joined the horde even, but just arenāt playable.
The thing is that they have development costs.
Iād much rather we get things like ogres, jinyu etc. than waste the finite content we get on literally green trolls when that could be a customisation option that makes perfect sense.
There arenāt āSlotsā thereās just space on the UI.
The core races can get even higher than they are now.
The entire idea of āslotsā was made up from nothing.
Thereās also people that just use it as an excuse to say what they want is higher priority.
āWasted development timeā would be more accurate. Most people who were upset about Mechagnomes arent upset that theyāre in the game, theyāre upset because they didnāt get something they wanted
I mean, I get it
I understand how you feel in that regards. At the same it is worth nothing that making skins and new anatomical customizations also has development costs. Now in terms of the allied race system. If we go by how blizzard has done things in the past for allied races, the only sort of allied races which may be viable for the worgen or undead slot may be something that uses the worgen rig(stuff like saurok or dragons would work nicely) although for undead I think it could just be some kind of relevant undead. If they want with something closer to pandas maybe tuskar or tortollans.
What I actually feel they should have just done though in combination with customization is to just be a lot more open about what races can be included and join factions. One of the big problems is that Wildhammers and Gilgoblins would both be able to be druids. Something like eredar would be able to be warlocks and rogues. If they made this to be just skins, some of the nicest classes that would be most appropriate for them wouldnāt be playable.
āWasted development timeā would be more accurate. Most people who were upset about Mechagnomes arent upset that theyāre in the game, theyāre upset because they didnāt get something they wanted
I mean, I get it
This is on them. People need to understand that gnomes were never ever going to get anything else but something that was a gnome or used the gnome rig. Its just how allied races have been done.
It wasnāt a waste of an allied race slot since that spot was specifically reserved for something gnome like.
That doesnāt mean they should deny races they donāt want added just because they want something else.
Broken, Ogres, Jinyu, Arrikoa, Tuskar, and the like are all āWasteā by that idea because few people would play the āFreakishā races.
Thing is they could have done fully mechanical gnomes or not done āgnomesā at all.
The whole idea that they have to use the same rig or be an extension of a parent race is not 100% accurate. It just saves development time.
Yeah, but itās like nothing compared to an AR. Thereās no rejigging the rigs, thereās no new voice lines, thereās no new racials. Itās just new skin, maybe new little trinkets on an existing rig.
Races like Eredar are not a great candidate for a customisation option, but thatās sort of like expecting something like fel orcs. Theyāre obvious AR fodder.
Not everythingās going to line up, but Iām much happier taking a compromise thatās much more likely to happen than holding my breath over something unlikely because itās not perfect.
Not that it matters because the whole topic of this conversation (forest trolls) are like borderline a certainty next xpac.
I would absolutely play all of these.
I was just saying that the forest/frost trolls donāt need the buffer models nor to be an AR given customizations already coming. Jeez.
You touch my Mechagnome and Iāll find you and camp youā¦ Or somethingā¦ I donāt know how threats work. (also just kidding)
Broken and Ogres are races that Iād actually like to see playable at some point. Iām a fan of races that are not only appealing, but those that make sense. Especially Ogres. They shouldāve been playable since the beginning
Full mechanical gnomes would be cool, but cyborgs arenāt without merit either. Blizzard has done cyborgs right numerous. Let me give you a few examples of cyborgs done right by blizzard:
~http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080306214446/wowwiki/images/c/c6/Moāarg_Forgefiend.jpg
Moāarg Blacksmiths
~http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091215022808/wowwiki/images/c/c8/Thaddius_TCG.jpg
Thaddius
~https://imgur.com/a/DjO64KR
Then you also have these fel goblins(fan made).
Yeah, but itās like nothing compared to an AR. Thereās no rejigging the rigs, thereās no new voice lines, thereās no new racials. Itās just new skin, maybe new little trinkets on an existing rig.
Now that mention it, this is a bit depressing. Iād actually rather they either just expand a bunch of subraces based on races weāve helped and at least give the the classes and voice lines, but just having them as a skin feels souless and it lacks the same amount of excitement introducing them as a new race would be.
So, guys.
Iāve mogged Thorisdal and I couldnāt help but notice how different the Thalassian crest looks:
Instead of a blood drop, thereās just a blue orb, perhaps a symbol for the sun. Do you think this was the original High Elf crest before changing their name to Blood Elves?
Probably. Is it close to the blood elf one? From what I heard the blood elf and high elf sigils are just red/blue.
Itās exactly the one that Halduron uses in images which match his outfit.
ohā¦maybe I missed your question. sorry
The high elves used a unicorn. The phoenix is a blood elf symbol representing their rebirth.
Theyāre nearly identical. The Blood Elf one is red and features a blood drop instead of the blue orb:
Got attitude. Canāt let them haters knock you down.
ohā¦maybe I missed your question. sorry
Cute helm Starla. Perhaps I should take you out for an expensive dinner sometime 
Thatās strange. Why would High Elves use the phoenix as the racial symbol when creating Thoriādal?
Itās never stated anywhere the high elves created it, itās unknown where it came from. But high elves never used the phoenix, thatās a blood elf thing.