Yes of course, sometimes I canât help myself 
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And when cornered with their made up rules being forced to admit that Void Elves are just as much High Elves as Blood Elves they say we already got them.
In that case itâs more than okay to ask for a different variety of something we already have. Especially when itâs even LESS like the completely separate thing they have.
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Itâs a reference to the Planet of the Apes movies
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To say âHigh Elves and Blood Elves are the sameâ is profoundly disengenous when the whole reason of their divide is because they are ideologically distinct. They literally choose different paths, different contexts, and some people still claim their terms are interchangeable?
Itâs either utterly disingenuous or completely befuddled.
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My sisters and I are ideologically distinct. Are we no longer the same?
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republican and democrat voters are a different race with their logic
and they still cant answer my question i asked sara
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You have yet to prove that. So far it just seems to be wishful thinking that if you claim theyâre super distinct that way it will make up for the fact that they ARE the same race. Itâs really dishonest to pretend that saying âBut they think different things!â counters the fact that they ARE the same race as the playable race on the horde.
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Thank you. 
Sorry I wasnât able to find a clip of them talking about Ape law that would work in here
Letâs be clear. The point of argumentation is whether they are âsignificantly distinct enough to be an ARâ Thatâs what we can discuss.
But to claim they are âjust the same thingâ that is the disingenuous and myopic point some like to make.
The lack of nuance in the spectrum between âthe sameâ and âdistinct enough to be an ARâ is astonishing and honestly it comes as bad faith from some people. I have no issues with people like Tarrok that just believe they just arenât distinct enough, but again, thereâs a difefrence between that stance and denying thereâs any difference to the point you refuse to recognize they have different nameâs now.
Now that, is disingenuous.
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They are the same race. That is the same thing. Like⊠by definition.
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Ultimately, itâs just obfuscating to use âHigh Elvesâ as an umbrella term because it lacks specificity and leads to the question about âwhich group of elves we are referring toâ
That they are the same race defines only their biology, not their ideology, political stance and culture. And we are literally talking about such differences, to deny them, is simply disingenuous.
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I dunno, I think itâs pretty disingenuous to pretend that by changing a name to honor their past that the Blood Elves have abandoned that past.
But mainly, itâs a sneaky little play to pretend that a huge chunk of the opposition argument doesnât count to make it seem like the only difference that matters is the fact that they are different politically, even though that political difference mainly pertains to the disposition of the nation that they all belonged to.
So yes, the debate is over whether they are different enough. Thatâs why yelling about how some of the major points of how they are not only not different, but in many ways completely the same is disingenuous is not arguing in good faith. Itâs just waving away an inconvenient argument for you to counter.
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You wanna talk about obfuscating while you try to claim theyâre not the same thing. Despite the fact theyâre the same race.
By which you mean âpolitical affiliationâ.
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High elf has two meanings depending on the context.
High Elf in the context of the âraceâ means the groups such as blood elves (SinâDorei) and the alliance high elves.
High elf in the context of group, would be those who have not claimed themselves to be Blood elves. I.E. the High Vale elves of the hinterlands do not claim the Name Blood elf, they belong to the High elf group.
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And when did I say that? That the modern high elves use that moniker is entirely beholden to the fact they donât have a new name. You are loading into it something that does not exist.
âModernâ High Elves are as much and even more removed than Blood Elves from the usage previous to the Third War. Do not confuse things. There is no such thing as a âtrueâ high elf. Thatâs gone.
Like, no. As much as Dalaran has shifted alliances, High Elves have become either neutral or Alliance. To say groups as the SC donât have a distinct leaning is just befuddled.
The fact is that High Elves and Blood Elves have distinct beliefs, and itâs the utter denial those beliefs arenât distinct enough to warrant calling them as different groups is what comes as disengenous.
As much as youâd like to say âthe debate is overâ urgh, just donât. Thatâs literally just saying âwell I am rightâ Donât.
Regardless of that, even if they are deemed ânot different enough,â to say âthey are exactly the same as to call them the same nameâ is entirely inaccurate, factually so, and I will always be aghast at people supporting that nonsense.
Specificity is necessary, and a willful dismissal of it is nothing short of biased. Again, the difference might not be enough to make them playable,. but to dismiss it by itself, when it entails so much more not beholden to biology, is utterly disingenuous.
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As in the subject of the debate, not that there is none.
Like âOk, so weâre debating over whether to get pepperoni pizza or a stromboliâ
They are the same race. Thatâs not the point. How hard is to understand that Blood Elf and High Elf modernly refer to distinct cultural and ideological identities? Why do you need is necessary to erase such identities if not for an argument about playability?
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I also donât get this⊠I suspect Iâm just dumb. What is this?
The foundation has been built. The story can only be built upon⊠just as we have observing all other allied races. I imagine everything would become much more distinguished when made playable.
I am out for the Night.
Good night all 
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