The High Elf Love Thread 🥰

[Cezol-darkspear]

Cool, then the past the high elves have doesn’t matter.

But you just said it does, let’s acknowledge it in the intro quest, then move right along. Are you also saying Blood elves don’t matter, let’s remove them then, nice Broflake!

What more do you want?

I am not interested in you like that

Are you…new to the internet?

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

It would be good, and it would help explain a bit more why the high elves didn’t come back.

I could see it now

“Sacrifices? You ran and did not come back until AFTER we reclaimed it.”

“Did you forget that while you and your nobles lounged on their spires we defended the borders of Quel’thalas? We saved these forest from burning and lost almost everyone we loved, for what gratitude? So that you would join the ones that hurt us so? But please, now tell us how that’s the same than a human racist commander failing to execute the blood elves. It’s just the same than all our dead killed by the horde.”

It could go on forever!

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

But you just said it does,

You said it doesn’t, I am working off your logic to demonstrate how it is flawed.

Are you…new to the internet?

It being the internet does not condone you to speak to people in such a fashion.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

Honestly this is how WotLK should have started.
Then you introduce the SC in 3.1 as a continuation of the story.

A lot of the story is really poorly done though.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

I mean… it’s WoW so it’s not more cogent than your regular comic book continuity.

But yeah so much more could have been done with the HE/BE schism.

[Lannisteros-proudmoore]

I said earlier too a BE / HE rivalry is far more interesting then the NE BE stuff they’ve portrayed over the years, and the VE feud feels hollow I would like to see the VE narrative be extremely friendly / coworker like, akin to something like the NB and BEs. It might even add nuance to the VE / BE feud for the VEs to be so chummy with HEs.

[Cezol-darkspear]

You said it doesn’t, I am working off your logic to demonstrate how it is flawed.

I said we don’t need to acknowledge it anymore because it’s in the past, High Elves can join the Alliance off their merits in WoW alone, you said we need to cause reasons, I said sure we can if we need to and you don’t like that idea either.

Are you angry? Or do you just not like High Elves?

Obviously don’t answer that, everyone knows what you’re about Broflake.

It being the internet does not condone you to speak to people in such a fashion.

In a loving yet ultimate very sarcastic way?

I’m a monster, send me to Guantanamo.

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

I’m cool with the SC going full on formal Alliance allies…right after they self-exile from the neutral city-state of Dalaran.

I’m cool with this tbh, I’m tired of Dalaran’s flip flopping. But having the Dalaran pop split would be really interesting. Maybe the SC gets the crater in Hillsbrad as part of the settlement.

Yep, I wasn’t being at all sarcastic when I said I would be good with it. I don’t know how they would create the split, but frankly if I thought Bliz had talent that could write its way out of a paper bag I probably wouldn’t be opposed to Cezol’s idea of having the SC lose its mind, go after Khadgar, and then watch what happens.

As it is, we don’t have that writing talent…because god forbid that job got handed to Golden who would try and spin it as some heroic moment for the Alliance.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

I think part of it is that WoW grew too big, too quickly, and they ended up with a lot more moving parts than they tthought they would have originally.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

I mean the thing with HE/BE is that the wounds are so fresh. With BE/NE it’s like 10k years of water under the bridge -and yet we still had Lorash being salty abt it heh- and with VE/BE is so under-explored, to the point we have barely seen them interact beyond Lor’themar calling them traitors, and the VE’s being more interested in studying.

I do think VE and HE allying as one military force -especially since their leaders are sisters- would augment their story, even of VE’s are the only ones playable. It would lend them more backing in terms of the feud that exists, and it would make the HE’s not just a bunch of exiles with a grudge, but show that the VE’s are ultimately “new” people that disagree with the BE state’s choices.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

I said we don’t need to acknowledge it anymore because it’s in the past,

If its in the past, then it doesn’t matter. That would have to apply to the SC if you wished not to be contradictory. You’re looking at it in a biased way and not holding the standard throughout.

Are you angry?

Why would I be upset? Its a game. Not life.

Or do you just not like High Elves?

I am playing one…so…

Obviously don’t answer that, everyone knows what you’re about Broflake.

Yeah, not having a horde race go alliance because you don’t like the color of void elves.

In a loving yet ultimate very sarcastic way?

You’re kinda being gross dude. I won’t address this further since you’re willfully ignorant.

[Guzzle-barthilas]

Remember that NPC that said Dark Trolls are all wiped out only for them to be future troll customization in the next expansion?

Actually the npc just said her tribe was wiped out. Not all dark trolls.

You never heard of da Shadowtooth Clan? No surprise, da tribe be wiped out by da Twilight’s Hammer.

Da Zandalari be keepin’ one representative as a memento of da past. Now I be nothin’ more than a curiosity.

It not so bad. I never have ta buy any o’ me own drinks.

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

I’m cool with this tbh, I’m tired of Dalaran’s flip flopping. But having the Dalaran pop split would be really interesting. Maybe the SC gets the crater in Hillsbrad as part of the settlement.

They get their own floating chunk. It will have trees and a lodge.

I still think the Horde/Alliance areas should have been their own floating neighbor islands.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

Honestly they should just have two lead writers.
one for horde, one for alliance, then have them brainstorm how to push the ideas effectively.

As it stands, though, hindsight is twenty twenty.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

Dude I am going to re-roll my Blood elf DK come shadowlands into a troll. IT GON BE DA BEST!

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

Yep, I wasn’t being at all sarcastic when I said I would be good with it. I don’t know how they would create the split, but frankly if I thought Bliz had talent that could write its way out of a paper bag I probably wouldn’t be opposed to Cezol’s idea of having the SC lose its mind, go after Khadgar, and then watch what happens.

As it is, we don’t have that writing talent…because god forbid that job got handed to Golden who would try and spin it as some heroic moment for the Alliance.

I heavily disagree that this is about a lack of talent. That’s missing the point.

The problem is that lore development is mandated by gameplay application, and nothing is going to really happen if it doesn’t have a reason for it. Both Elegy and A Good War were good stories by themselves, even if they were framed by such a dumb resolution. The talent is there.

It’s just there’s no necessity to waste time on the high elf narrative as long they are not playable or a central part of another leveling experience.

I think part of it is that WoW grew too big, too quickly, and they ended up with a lot more moving parts than they tthought they would have originally.

IDK man, I think writing good stories by themselves is not the hardest or most expensive, the problem is indeed that everything is interconnected, so nothing can really change unless it’s approved by people higher up for whom the story itself is at best a vehicle for gameplay.

That’s why leveling experiences then to be the best. They have to concern themselves with only the leveling, and are mostly self contained. It feels there’s more freedom to be creative, since the journey is all there is.

[Guzzle-barthilas]

I am really hype to make Guzzle Guzzul the forest troll.

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

I heavily disagree that this is about a lack of talent.

I’m sorry Tal, but I need to ask; do you genuinely feel we’ve been playing a game the last couple of years where the story was crafted by talented professionals who know and love the game and its lore?

I’m ignoring the books, quite specifically. I don’t play games to be told “well, the only way you’ll understand what’s happening in the game is to do your homework and complete these reading assignments.”

[Cezol-darkspear]

Yeah, not having a horde race go alliance

The trolling continues.

If its in the past, then it doesn’t matter. That would have to apply to the SC if you wished not to be contradictory.

Sure it matters, Blood Elves won’t shut up about it, High Elves were also there, that point is that it mattered, small thing called past-tense, where we don’t need to be constantly reminded that it happened, sure we can address what they feel about it now, in their intro scenario, after that it’s sails away for the High Elves continues story in WoW.

See how that works? When you’re not biased?

I am playing one…so…

Yup.

You’re kinda being gross dude.

Flies right over your head.

Yes, please feel free to never address. ‍♂

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

They get their own floating chunk. It will have trees and a lodge.

I still think the Horde/Alliance areas should have been their own floating neighbor islands.

Would have been cool, but the idea is that the city itself was mostly intact and that the populace itself split. I like that.

Now if we had had the tempest keep as our sanctuary during Legion… sigh, that would have been SO much cooler.

But if the SC/Dalarani Dissidence resettle in the crater, IDK, i’d rather see just a regular city. What’s the point of floating if you are resettling and don’t need a moving command centre?