The High Elf Love Thread 🥰

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

Heuristics in video games can just as much scale down as up.

[Fezzy-draenor (Fezzy)]

Numbers really isn’t an issue. Void Elves alone conclude that.

Does anyone by chance have any numbers for them even? how many of that 10% of remaining Thalassian elves were they?

[Awz-wyrmrest-accord]

i would agree except for alliance high elves specifically. its literally the only group that lore and development state are a scattered few individuals

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

You’ve also skipped a conversation. Neat.

I haven’t skipped anything. You are just doing quips and one liners on top of repeating my lines.

You even deliberately misquoted to make it look like I responded to a different part of your post. Then complained about exactly what you were doing. And to be fair, the rest of it ignored any of our points anyway, kinda more of the same.

Then say what part of the post I supposedly skipped and explain why insead of childish “No you!”.

I’m all ears.

Also I don’t think I made an argument, I just boomeranged your weak jab.

All your doing is mocking my post without making any counter arguments then.

Got it.

To restate.

We compared player race populations that number in the hundreds to thousands.

Void Elves are a few dozen scholers on a rock literally referred to as an elite crack squad.

Draenei are a few hundred as stated in Rise of the Horde.

Lightforged where almost wiped out as stated in the intro quest.

Darkspear are listed as almost extinct in their racial description.

Mag’har populations are up in the air.

Gnomes are a few thousand at best.

The numbers ‘argument’ is dead on arrival.

So either add to the conversation or move on. Or I will, Idc.

[Valarían-hydraxis]

wow down scales due to player cpu limitations this is well known.

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

…and how many of that 10% were actually Alliance aligned.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

So either add to the conversation or move on. Or I will, Idc.

Can you add where you’re getting those numbers from?

[Valarían-hydraxis]

i would agree except for alliance high elves specifically. its literally the only group that lore and development state are a scattered few individuals

I would think thats more then a few voids elves living on a rock, also i would

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

Some people just seem though to be using numbers as an argument. But what does numbers proof?

[Fezzy-draenor (Fezzy)]

Of the Void Elves? All of them I’d imagine.

You mean how many of the Thalassians were Alliance Aligned? Thats not really what I was getting at.

do we have any numbers for how many of the Blood Elves were with the exiles who became the Void Elves?

Like genuinely curious here. We need that info to make an assumption on how many of any race needs to be to be an AR. We know the Void Elves were a small number probably the smallest of all AR’s. (Argument for Vulpera being smaller?) So if we have numbers we can make an educated guess at where the threshold lies.

[Fliktarg-emerald-dream]

The burden of proof lies on the antis in regards to the same high elves being used over the years in different military units or otherwise dying since we last saw them.

Typically unless stated otherwise it is to presume a character is alive when we have not seen them.

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

So either add to the conversation or move on. Or I will, Idc.

I’m not inclined to take you seriously when you start off with a jab.

You still haven’t established that there is a viable Alliance high elf population. What you’ve established is that there is likely even fewer remaining Alliance high elves that a player population could be drawn from then even the smallest of those listed.

[Valarían-hydraxis]

I would say the If the Forts havnt been destroyed then they are still there, They are still there, are they manned by same peeps i would say no, but there are High Elves In the Alliance Military its safe to assume they are still there if they show up in BFA.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

We compared player race populations that number in the hundreds to thousands.

Are there any actual solid Blizzard provided numbers you can point to?

Because if no, what’s the point in arguing this?

Can you add where you’re getting those numbers from?

[Valarían-hydraxis]

Like I said before and Lore back this up, there are a few reason why Not all High Elves went to join the Sin’dorei. Things from the feeling of being abandoned, to The Sin’dorei joining the Horde, to Leaving the Alliance devides are there.

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

Are there any actual solid Blizzard provided numbers you can point to?

Because if no, what’s the point in arguing this?

Draenei where stated to be only a few hundred at most in rise of the Horde.

Anduin was confused about recruiting the Lightforged because there are so few left. All player Lightforged are Exodar Draenei who got changed.

Ion claimed Void Elves where “An Elite Crack Squad” this potentially being the smallest player race.

Player Pandaren are half a school on the back of a big turtle for each faction.

Gnomes got reduced to one district in Ironforge before rescuing more after cataclysm.

Otherwise it’s the usual blizzard trope of “Almost Extinct” that doesn’t mean much to Blizzard, thus being a moot point.

Why on Azeroth are people using population as an argument?

Numbers is the worse argument anyone could use.

This.

You still haven’t established that there is a viable Alliance high elf population.

Compared to already playable populations, yeah.

What you’ve established is that there is likely even fewer remaining Alliance high elves that a player population could be drawn from then even the smallest of those listed.

That’s a bit of a stretch in logic. Thanks for actually sharing a thought this time.

[Hecatone-burning-legion (Hecatone)]

That’s a bit of a stretch in logic.

I don’t think it is. Especially given commentary form the game director.

[Awz-wyrmrest-accord]

its safe to assume they are still there

ill go by the words of the devs(no hubs, too few, etc) and conclude that they arent

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

So no, you don’t have actual numbers, you’re just pulling them out.

Also, if numbers are the worst argument, why are you arguing numbers?

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

Because that’s the same dang point that keeps getting dragged up for no good reason.

I mean, can you look at races like Draenei/Darkspear/Void Elves/Pandaren and tell me numbers are an actual issue?