The High Elf Love Thread đŸ„°

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Ive been looking at the two different orcs that are playable, and their stories, and what make them different.

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17340

That’s a little out of left field.

17341

But weren’t you the one who brought the pretend specific numbers into a discussion of whether the story seems to be saying there aren’t enough?

Because there’s numbers where you try and pretend you know populations and how they compare to each other and whether or not the story is presenting something as having enough or not enough.

I feel like the game is presenting a dwindling population with less of them being shown as the story progresses. But that if Blizz wanted to they’ll change that. Others seem to think there is a boom in population. So argue what signs your seeing and how you think they are being presented. Don’t guess at how many of each race there are and how they compare to the others.

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Ok gang, hang on a sec please
the forum badminton is making me a little dizzy.

With all due respect to both my fellow antis and our worthy opposition: Numbers don’t matter. It’s an argument that neither side can conclusively win, and even if one did; as long as there are more High Elves than a crack squad there are enough to justify an AR.

Perhaps we could stipulate that and leave the argument where Void Elves put it. There are - for me - good and sufficient reasons not to implement them without it. And, as always, let’s please remember:

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17343

And that’s why we’re saying it’s a stupid argument.

Blizzard just handwaves it whenever they need to use it as a point for or against something.

There are no solid numbers. Draenei being far less than a thousand and “An Elite Crack Squad” on top of the “Nearly Extinct” Darkspear are the closest we got and it’s an easy comparison to say they at least equal them.

So the ENTIRE numbers argument is just bogus.

The only real issue is we have 3-4 distinct populations and each one has something different. Which one do you chose? Do you pull a Mag’Har and mix them? Does one start to draw the others in?

That’s a real issue.

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17344

I’m getting dizzy here.

Numbers don’t matter, but look at these numbers that say we should have them.

17345

this already happened. thats what the SC is/was. veressa was angry that rhonin was going along with aethas’ plan to reestablish relations with quel’thalas, and she formed the SC in response as a precautionary measure for dalaran. she basically rallied the elves that did not remain with their people when they joined the horde :woman_shrugging:

also theres really only 2 pops. quel’thalas and dalaran. and the alliance has claim to neither

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So
why is it being brought up as if it favors high elves in anyway?
Let alone, I don’t believe anyone on the anti side has used such a thing to turn the high elves recently, so where is this coming from?

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Just going to stop you right there Fyre. Just because you only think there is 2, doesn’t mean others are not out there.

Remember, World of Warcrat is built out of multiple IP’s, so the the game is a lot more different than what it would be if the Warcraft universe is more like the real world.

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17348

To be fair, what other pops are there?

17349

then name them so they can be vetted as a viable population or not

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Well Alliance High Elves are still coming out of the woodwork even if the Void Elves are around.

I mean pretty much the Void Elves haven’t done anything at all during this expansion other than the beginning and patch 8.1 That’s about it with them. N’zoth and etc could have been a good time for them to do something but nope. Void Elves are much like the High Elves now. Less screentime Alliance Thalassian Elves basically.

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17351

How about Highvale Elves of Quel’Danil lodge? Though they aren’t a large group, they still count towards the population.

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Would we consider them a population though? Population implies something bigger. To my knowledge, they are a small group, much like the quel’lithien high elves. Mind you, number don’t matter, but I don’t believe there are large groups of high elves outside the SC, and I believe they are Dalaran populationbased.

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well we know vereesa still lives in dalaran but there is no sign of the SC anymore

17354

SC, Highvale, and Allerian Stronghold are all good populations to draw from.

Stormwind is kinda up in the air as they are mixed with mages or the army.

I say we go the Mag’Har rout and mix them.

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I doubt they would show the SC in such a capacity without their leader to be honest.
We follow Lor’themar around for a book and we never hear anything of the far striders, but they still exist.

None of those are populations, those are groups. Small, small groups as well. What would be the story?

SUDDENLY FROM NOWHERE!

IT TURNS OUT THE ALLERIAN STRONGHOL AND HIGHVALE HIGH ELVES WERE LIKE RABBITS!

A HUGE NUMBER OF HIGH ELVES APPEAR!

Even though canonically there are nine times less than blood elves. It doesn’t make sense story wise.

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Dalaran was once Alliance. It can still be Alliance Again. Just kick out Khadgar and boom Dalaran is under Alliance Name. Suramar or whatever kind of magic city can be for the Horde like Suramar and Silvermoon.

But I doubt Dalaran will ever be Alliance because of Neutral line.

17357

The Alliance really does not need anymore power canonically.

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Is anyone still there? Isn’t outland falling apart? And why do you assume they’re all staying with the Alliance?

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