And Draenei/Lightforged/Magâhar while also forgetting about Darkspear. Showing small populations are not an issue.
And even if that where true the Recruitment Quest could simply band them all together.
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Up until Legion itâs never shown anyone in the council disagreeing. With Modera even taking part on the offensive. So even if other members of the council had misgivings, is pretty evident they didnât stand against Jainaâs decision to pledge the KT to the Alliance.
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Magâhar are described as having âsignificantâ forces on Azeroth.
Yes, I think âVoid elves didnât magically forget how to use siege weapons because I dunno, wizards or somethingâ is more likely than âThe High Elves, from nowhere, despite not being involved in this conflict appeared from literally nowhere to besiege Orgrimmar and also no high elf npcs appearâ.
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More likely a small contingent of High Elves, Sinâdorei would not have used High Elves Color scheme, game scale representation would be my answer to the size of force.
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1- Void elves donât even have a single house anywhere in the world, and you expect them to have an arsenal of ballistae hanging around?
2- Those ballistae use the same model/colors of ones used by the Silver Covenant in places like Northrend and Isle of Thunder.
3- There were high elves involved in this war, including Vereesa, Yvera, Seraphi and the shield mages in Arathi. You can argue all you want that they may have been in small numbers, but not that they were absent or not involved at all.
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The devs did go out of the way to show they had a presence there.
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There werenât even any Void Elves there.
They donât even use siege equipment or have the means to make it. They do all their stuff with Void Magic. Itâs literally their entire thing.
Citation needed.
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In defense of magâhar, they were shown to have been able to move considerable forces to Azeroth in their recruitment scenario, including ogre clans and cannon-mounted gronn. Weâve also seen actual magâhar weaponry in the battlefield, like cannons, iron stars and even a ship somehow (thought the one in Drustvar may just have been a Horde ship built with magâhar designs after we got them in our shipyard in WoD).
The magâhar are portrayed as an actual army in the 8.1 war campaign and invasions. They may not be a big army, but they are clearly very well equipped and numerous, and also shown to have a variety of units from all clans.
Void elves, in the other hand, are mostly casters and the ocasional ranger. No equipment, no town, no army. Just specialized âeliteâ units.
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Yes. You donât usually keep siege weapons in houses. I assume they keep their siege weapons where they keep their regular weapons and their mounts.
Who are completely absent not just from the quest in question but the entire xpac beyond two guys opening a portal.
So despite appearing in exceedingly small numbers theyâve brought a big olâ cache of siege weaponry to a battle despite not appearing in it?
Alleria was there. So just as many Void Elves as high elves were there.
They use bows, donât they?
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Vereesa appear in that same questline and patch. /facepalm
Siege weaponry that was theirs in past expansions. Is it so crazy to think that the SC borrowed siege weaponry to the Alliance? High elven siege weaponry, BTW.
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So Vereesa was single handedly manning all those siege weapons?
No, itâs entirely possible itâs SC stuff being lent to the Alliance. Although it doesnât have Silver Covenant written on it so itâs just as likely they belong to the void elves.
The original claim was:
Iâm simply saying that thereâs other possibilities. Surplus siege weapons lent to the Alliance is a strong one.
Void elves were never shown to have such weaponry. Silver Covenant was.
Also, itâs high elven weaponry, not void elf-themed at all. Argue that when we see gold-purple ballistae with void gems all over.
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Silver Covenant havenât been shown to fight in this war in the sort of numbers that would make the use of siege engines possible. Void elves have.
And I dunno about you, but I see void elves wearing and using blue stuff all the time. It sort of comes with the whole Alliance thing.
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Shield mages using the same gear as SC mages.
High elven ballistae like the SC has shown to use in the past
Vereesa Windrunner in the final attack.
If anything your arguments leads to is that the Alliance does not even need the SC to have high elf forces fighting for it, as the high elves are there anyway.
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So weâre just cutting up what other people say so we can argue something they didnât even say? Thatâs an incredibly classy and honest move.
Thatâs where I bid you good day.
If they canât even build houses then how can they build Siege Equipment?
And why wouldnât they have Void Elf colors or themes if they did make them?
The only logical explanation is that Vereesa brought Siege Equipment since she is literally a commander of a High Elf army that would have those.
Even if Alleria counts as a Void Elf this renders your entire point moot lol
Bows arenât siege equipment.
A significant fighting force is not the same as being a significant force.
They are able to contribute but they are still outmatched by other armies.
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I wonât miss a guy that suggests high elf ballistae do not belong to high elves, but to void elves that not only have their own aesthetic, but also have never been shown to have such weaponry before, nor way present in said battle in any greater capacity than the high elves were.
We know Silver Covenant has ships and ballistae in past expansions. Occamâs Razor is very clear about who those weapons belong to.
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Also Void Elves wouldnât even need Siege equipment.
They would make Giant Void abominations or make portals for other races that specialize in Siege Equipment.
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It is what it is, markings match high elves,
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