Me, Iâd be fine with just a âI disagree but see what your concern isâ type deal. Itâs mainly the âNo, you just made that up to cover up for your sociopathic desires to make us sufferâ that are the big problems (extreme, but a certain regular likes to throw that one out).
I mean, I get some of the reasons that have been listed to want the race, and they make sense. I just donât think that itâs a good idea. And I donât think that anyoneâs doing anything like doing it just to take away something nice Horde has. (Now, if someoneâs being a certain type of hat about it, I may get snarky at them, and Iâm not always the person Mr. Rogers thought I could be then)
Not being called: petty, spiteful, racist, vile, ect. Is a good start.
Again, the reductionist/dismissal thing isnât great. Nor is the conversation-forum rules-manipulation thing used to try and frame posters out of the conversation. Not to mention going after people by flag bombing their older posts.
To be fair most of the concerns are sensible concerns to have.
The best thing, which has probably been said like thirty times, would have been if Void Elves hadnât happened and theyâd just given us High Elves then⊠Would virtually have been the same as the Void Elves excepting the silhouette/exactly the same as the Blood Elves issue.
^ And thatâs not the first case of people telling us they will never happen, or to play void elves or horde, etc.
And Iâve seen antis state they flat out donât care about our sides feelings, and I have personally tried asking people on the anti side what would make them feel at peace with high elves if they were told the alliance is getting them. I want to take peopleâs feelings into account, but it gets difficult with the way a lot of people act.
Thanks for bringing up an example! Posts like this are exactly the problem. Whether theyâre pro or anti. Iâve seen it happen a few times, and apparently am not the only one.
Itâs why in âŠI think it was the Mega-thread, I tried to caution people not to be too sure whether they were in support or not. You know how it is with expectations!
Except for my pet concern, the avoidance of more horde story getting smeared through the mud. Forgive me for not typing out the essay again, but I feel that changing the elves who didnât go through with the blood elf survival strategy from being either the privileged few who could mooch off dalaran artifacts and the extremely hardy who were able to weather the withdrawal, you could end up changing the tone of the story from desparate necessary measures into cruel decadence to avoid a minor suffering. And I REALLY do not trust the writers not to do something like that if they get half an excuse to do so.
I mean if they were adding the blood elf model anyways, why leave open the door like this in the long run? Might as well just toss em in and not make up a new elf type. (honestly I wish the entirety of Alleriaâs story had no void and just leaned into her uniting what few âhighâ elves remain.)
I think the Devs decided that there werenât really enough of them to do that with, though they should have rolled up what remained of them - and done so with clear exposition.
I agree. That is a concern. The Blood Elf story at least from a hardcore Blood Elf players standpoint would likely just feel a little⊠Undermined?
High Elves and Blood Elves are VERY similar, and really the main differences are mostly their choices in dealing with the loss of the Sunwell. The Blood Elves pushed towards Illidans/Rommaths way to draw magic and sort of fell a little more to the desire for vengeance for what happened to them.
The High Elves reeled from the event and their inability to easily return to their ruined home, and settled where they were. They felt morally unwilling to draw magic form living things to survive and got by with what they had.
The political differences then come into it with where they stayed. Most of the in game High Elves remained in Alliance lands and developed a loyalty to them. Others canonically stayed near to or in QuelâThalas and just didnât do the Rommath draw magic thing.
And the largest group remained in Dalaran.
I mean you can make stories from all of that, but fundamentally theyâre the same thing. Its dealing with the loss and the return of the Sunwell crossed with where they ended up when the dust settled.
This is a thing that needs to be handled with GOOD story with a well thought out path to its conclusion if they want it to be good. Otherwise itâll just feel like pandering to someone.
Agreed. The population concern is one of those shaky bits of Lore with regards to the conversation given how careless Blizz is with that sort of thing. Is why I say that ultimately theyâll do whatever with it; since we did get Void Elves out of it.
It would be nice to see Blizz actually -do- something with High Elves rather than just dotting them around. Are they all joining up with their Renâdorei friends and becoming Renâdorei themselves? Do they get welcomed back to Silvermoon instead and become Sinâdorei? Whatâs the deal?
At least then theyâd get some sort of development, though I know the demand mainly seems to be for playable High Elves on one end ,or no playable High Elves on the other.
They Could even have done this with Alleria gathering the remnants of the High Elves and THEN have things go to them turning into Void Elves. BOOM all high elves Void Elves Alliance has their High Elves.
