Please point to one in-universe instance of someone explicitly stating that Thalassian is the sole racial term for high elves.
There may well be dozens of demonyms that they utilize, âHigh Elvesâ just isnât one of them â unless youâre betting on the fact that the writers just accidentally forgot to include the use of âHigh Elvesâ as a broad ethnic descriptor even one time in ~12 years of content creation.
Also, notice I respond to your âplease point outsâ, but you ignore mine. Letâs try again.
Uh uh uh, not using a term is not the same as saying it isnât valid. Explicitly stated thank you.
Well it did, just not a lot. Look up Fel Blood Elves for what happens with more Fel exposure.
Itâs in Chronicles. Though I remember a bit of it from Blood of the Highborne too,
âThe Surviving Elves greeted Kaelâthas with thinly veiled resentment.â
To paraphrase, the surviving elves thought he enjoyed spending time in Dalaran over Quelâthalas. It goes on to say that Kaelâthas had always felt distant from his people because he wasnât an isolationist.
I remember them also being upset about him sweeping in and grabbing their best warriors and rolling out.
That doesnât make their cultures the same at all. Dalaran is a human/elf hybrid, down to their architecture.
Zandalar and Kulâtiras donât have the same culture because they both love boats.
Leaving Silvermoon to join Dalaran without permission is abandoning Silvermoon, which was his fear.
Yeah. I donât like the stagnating Blood Elf story. The whole thing is basically, TBC: âWeâre different!â End of TBC: âWeâll try to go back?â Cataclysm: âWeâre still super addicted to magic.â > Nazmir?
I played the heritage quest and itâs talking about how they became Blood Elves. The whole thing revolves around the sacking of Silvermoon.
and looking at the quest text Iâm not misremembering it. This is literally a, âThis is how we became Sinâdoreiâ story.
The old Sunwell wasnât purified by a Naaru. Itâs a different SunwellâŠ
and, like I said, it doesnât matter if you keep one thing the same if you change other things drastically.
Here, here!
I disagree with this entirely honestly. They didnât change back. They just didnât suffer from mana addiction.
They didnât abolish the Blood Knights. They didnât abolish the reliquary or the scryers or the Sunreavers. They didnât change factions back to the Alliance.
They just stopped holding their buildings up with fel magic.
and once again, weâre talking about World of Warcraft. So you canât hold them to some cultural standard no other group in World of Warcraft can achieve. Weâre limited by the medium in what culture is even present.
There is nothing indicated that their culture shifted back. The only thing that has changed is that, theoretically, theyâre not still addicted to magic. However, in Cataclysmâs intro, and in the description of the leader of the Reliquary, theyâre not even past the magic addiction bit.
But they axed the story about her reclaiming her relationship with the light. Last weâve seen they still think that dominating the light is a better move.
Keep in mind, I like the Blood Elves. But this idea that theyâve returned to being the old Quelâdorei is wishful thinking on Blood Elves players parts, and I think a disservice to Blood Elves. Also⊠Nazmir. But thatâs fine. I like a little crazy.
Thatâs like saying, âwell, Americans donât call themselves Zapdosians, but that doesnât mean Zapdosians isnât a valid demonymâ.
I make that claim all the time. Because WoW doesnât have biology. Itâs got Cosmology.
Radiation in World of Warcraft turns people into radioactive goo that can attack people.
Humans used to all be made of metal and are cursed.
Any changes that occur in WoW are a result of magic. So if you suddenly get magically glowing eyes. Youâre kind of different.
Youâre still a Dark Troll though.
Not that it matters. Not like weâre arguing with people who give a crap about cosmology, WoW chronicles or Lore really.
Pretty much.
If the people who came up with the term âAmericanâ said âZapdosiansâ is a valid demonym, it would be.
If the people who came up with the term âThalassianâ, being the early Thalassians themselves, had posited that âHigh Elvesâ was a valid term then youâd be right.
As it stands, they donât appear to consider it to be valid at all â evidenced by it never being used, not once, in ~12 years of narrative development.
I donât disagree with Fyorsing.
Logically the group is probably fine being called âThalassiansâ because, âQuelâthalassiansâ is a bit much and âSilvermoonâdorei.â which theyâve actually been called sounds atrocious.
But itâs never appeared in the lore, and reasons for it to appear in lore basically donât exist unless youâre trying to talk smack about Renâdorei and the wayfarers simultaneously. But then you still wouldnât use the term, because youâre probably a Dwarf that isnât Brann Bronzebeard.
Also, itâs really funny that a group of people can complain about something thatâs still happening as being rediculous but are still here hanging on every word of it. You dudes live on this stuff. Should be thanking Fyorsing for her time. But thatâs it for me today. Gonna go lift weights. Have a good night people.
How different though? Different enough to be meassured?
And is this going to turn into another one of those âI know more about this than the people writing the loreâ cricular argument again?
The people who came up with the term Thalassian are Blizzard. You seem a little confused. Perhaps you should have a snickers.
blows a kiss to his adoring fan
Waves a fly-swatter in front of her face
Please, I might be dead, but I have standards.
Well there go my plans for the weekend.
Okay? I donât think you are thinking straight. Have a nap.
Any canon that is derived from in-universe sources is, typically, considered of a greater value than canon derived from out-of-universe sources (including comments made by the author themselves, unless the works are republished with the relevant amendments made).
What any individual, employed by Blizzard, has to say about a given group of characters (this being an out-of-universe source) is considerably less valuable to the canon than what that given group of characters has to say about themselves (this being an in-universe source).
(As an aside, wasnât it you who brought up degrees of canon last night in the first place? How did you forget your own position(s) in so short a time?)
Your initial response shouldâve been, âokay, I was very wrong.â
At least youâre finally admitting it.