The High Elf Love Thread 🥰

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

They’re Blood Elves. They are a different society from the extant beings called High Elves. All of their factions call them “Blood Elves”, as distinct from the factions that have “High Elves”

Let’s look at the page from the wow website…

Less than a decade ago, the wondrous high elven capital of Silvermoon was nearly destroyed during a brutal Scourge invasion. Under the command of Prince Arthas, the undead ravaged the city and went on to corrupt the sacred waters of the Sunwell. Despite this horrific event, the high elves—now known as the blood elves—have labored to rebuild their ruined capital. Most recently, the rebirth of the Sunwell has lifted spirits among the elves, and they have continued to heal Silvermoon’s scars in the hopes of returning the crown jewel of Quel’Thalas to its former glory.

That doesn’t scream different society to me.

[Wrenchester-moon-guard (Wrenchester)]

So what does PVP Vendors have to do with talking about the same race?

Simple: I’m dragging up other arguments on that by pointing out other cases where he was wrong, thereby eroding the idea of just appealing to authority by using him. “Ion said so!” isn’t a good argument when he’s basically the least popular person on the dev team at present

If I really felt like going through early BFA stuff and digging into his points it’d be interesting. Was he the one who said it’d be a surprise when the Teldrassil thing happened and it wasn’t just Sylvy, or was that someone else?

That doesn’t scream different society to me.

The HElves are the ones with the different society, basically being hangers-on to human society at this point

[Sarallesta-shattered-hand]

I’m dragging up other arguments on that by pointing out other cases where he was wrong, thereby eroding the idea of just appealing to authority by using him.

So, you’re actually now calling Ion wrong about “Blood Elves are High Elves”.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

In my head right now

Editted because Brak

[Sarallesta-shattered-hand]

Yeah, this is all that goes on with some people here on the forums.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

I thought we were finally done with this fight after the last day or so

[Wrenchester-moon-guard (Wrenchester)]

So, you’re actually now calling Ion wrong about “Blood Elves are High Elves”.

Blizz were wrong about “Vanilla servers won’t be popular”, so, hey, sure!

I thought we were finally done with this fight after the last day or so

It never ends. And it never will end until they just drop the bloody faction barrier already and we can all be happy

[Joyéuse-emerald-dream]

I thought we were finally done with this fight after the last day or so

It’s only a “fight” because y’all insist on coming into every High Elf related thread to spread misinformation and troll people happily talking about High Elves. Nobody is here to argue but the people who insist on talking down to those of us who enjoy High Elves in the Warcraft universe.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

But can you at least stop with the whole nonsense about the people who make the game being unreliable sources for information on the game, especially in non-off the cuff prepared settings?

[Wrenchester-moon-guard (Wrenchester)]

But can you at least stop with the whole nonsense about the people who make the game being unreliable sources for information on the game

This is a World of Warcraft tradition ever since Red Shirt Guy.

(plus I’m an old fart from Vanilla and I still carry the ancient salt of shaman posters from those days)

[Sarallesta-shattered-hand]

spread misinformation and troll people happily

So, you admit that what you have being doing.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

ok, it’s 4am, I need to go, but let me leave you all with these words of wisdom

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

Me too. The Horde and Alliance need to remain differents. But, I’ll be honest here, blizzard really need to stop adding high elves npc then.

I actually agree with this. There’s plenty of races in the Alliance that can do what high elves can do, I don’t get why they keep using them instead of significant races.

[Itlatn-illidan]

Blizzard shouldn’t disrespect its longtime customers by giving races to the wrong factions.

Doesn’t sound like a long time player if you werent around until WoD… all because of high elves. Go play TERA or something.

[Itlatn-illidan]

There’s about 5 various sources detailing its various levels of “Being canon” and “No longer being canon”, WoWpedia has 'em on the Warcraft RPG page.

Except what is being referenced is not the RPG.

They may be biologically elves, but they’re no longer the society of High Elves. Different societies are an acceptable basis for Allied race splits, see Mag’har or Mechagnomes.

Cool, and, what factions are those two respectively on relative to their core race?

BElves used to be HElves

They still are, a name change does not change what you are at the fundamental level. You may play a gnome, but you’re a human behind the screen.

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

@Valarían-hydraxis

Maybe everyone that disagrees is the same person,

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

It’s got nothing to do with being an echo chamber.

Okay.

The discussion that the people in favor of playable High Elves want to have revolves around discussing how they could be made to be distinct enough from BE’s to warrant playability, and that discussion can’t be meaningfully engaged in while the anti-HE crowd is pestering and trolling.

This is essentially you describing that you want a place to discuss how High Elves can be made playable without any interference from anyone else, like a echo chamber.

So which is it?

I mean, are you aware this is a Public Forum that people can access and post on?

I’m with Reno on this one. Virtually no thread in these forums exists without dissenting opinions being voiced. Discord exists for creating spaces where “only people with this opinion are allowed to enter the discussion” is an acceptable ruleset.

Now “can we all disagree respectfully?” is another topic altogether…but echo chambers? That’s simply not what the forums are for and it’s not going to happen here.

[Somand-proudmoore]

I finally got a Spirebreaker Harness! (One down, two to go)

How do the silver tattoos go with my Monk’s Silver Covenant mog?

Raxel - Character - WoW

[Itlatn-illidan]

What?
10whats

[Somuchsass-dalaran]

Not at all. I didn’t play from the end of Vanilla to MoP because of the lack of High Elves. Blizzard shouldn’t disrespect its longtime customers by giving races to the wrong factions. That situation was entirely different than the eventual restoration of High Elves to the Alliance would be.

So this… but also this?

Lmfao. Imagine being the dude who quits WoW because the Alliance finally got to play one of its own races after 15 years of absence.

You are full of double standards lady.