Itâs explained in the old opening quests that if you donât dump the arcane energy that you absorb and carry to much of it, youâll eventually become a wretched.
Quelâlithian lodge was effected by a magical artifact, which had the same effect. Too much magic in an elf.
Not today, no reason to measure leg-length discrepancies on my day off.
Donât you need to continue pandering to the universe nomenclature that practically no one agrees with you on? The wind is prepared for your shouting.
You mean the same Blizzard who pretty much said they were the same because rather than add them to the Alliance when they had the chance, they invented something out of the Blue instead?
Congrats, youâre achieving âJoyeousâ levels of spouting Nonsense.
Nah. Sheâs not wrong. Otherwise the elves in Stormwind would be named differently, as would the wayfarers in the Void Elf Starting ZoneâŠ
The Suramar Questline, etc. etc. would be drastically different if Blizzard didnât acknowledge a difference.
So sheâs correct here Reno.
No, she isnât. Blizzard couldnât make High Elves different enough to be added, so they invented an entirely new sub group instead and ignored High Elves completely.
Her argument: High Elves and Blood Elves are different groups, as acknowledged by the creators.
My response above: Here are a bunch of areas of Blizzard acknowledging that theyâre separate.
Keeping the context of when she made the comment, youâre arguing that because they didnât become an Allied Race that Blizzard doesnât acknowledge them as being different.
This is false. Otherwise, they wouldnât be labeled differently or have dialogue that acknowledges differences.
The Allied Race decision was based largely on gameplay factors.
That doesnât equal Blizzard not acknowledging theyâre different groups.
Iâd argue that practically everyone acknowledges them as different groups, otherwise any High Elf thread would have to start with a long discussion about what weâre talking about in the first place. Thatâs unnecessary, because, theyâre different.
Nah, Iâm not one to go on extended rants about dubious ideas like someone I could think of.
Iâm just not a fan of people changing the topic to try to win an argument, like by saying by using high elves to cover all the groups that started as WC2 high elves that someone is trying to say that those groups in universe still call themselves that.
Other than where the creators have said they are the same thing.
This has never happenedâŠ
once again⊠your argument is obviously baseless because if I create a topic talking about High Elves I donât have to quantify who Iâm talking about and the entirety of the WoW forums would be on the same page.
Iâll agree that, theyâre seldom, âextendedâ
âBlood Elves kind of are High Elves.â
Wrong thatâs not what this whole argument is about that has been going on since last night.
You might wanna back out, since you donât have the full picture, Cal.
âKind of areâ denotes similarity.
Nobody has ever said theyâre not similar.
Youâre right, let me rephase.
It is more appropriate, based on the existing in-universe evidences, to suggest that the term that best describes the broader ethnicity of the BEâs/VEâs/HEâs is âThalassianâ.
Your assertion is that we should utilize terminology that we either know, or reasonably suspect, is incorrect⊠because âitâs easierâ. This is absolutely no different than referring to all Asians, or all Africans, by their respective skin color (especially when you know the actual nationalities of each person youâre doing this to â you know Henry is from Ghana and Mbeke is from South Africa, but you call them by their skin color alone, because âitâs easierâ).
You can feel however you want about what they say â the only primary source, insofar as fictional settings are concerned, is the publication or publications.
As we established hours ago, there arenât any in-universe evidences that the broader ethnicity is referred to as âHigh Elfâ; while there are a plethora of in-universe evidences that the broader ethnicity is referred to as something akin to âThalassianâ.
A primary source is worth more than a secondary source, especially when the primary source directly contradicts the secondary source.
Agreed.
Agreed, you said this far more eloquently than I could have. 
If they were the same, theyâd be the same â same faction, same name, same tabards, same quests, same everything. Alas, theyâre not the same.
âWe canât make these pale, blonde elves different from the other pale, blonde elves⊠so letâs take this new group of pale, blonde elves and make them different from the other pale, blonde elves.â
Just because you think itâs more appropriate doesnât make it so.
Thalassian is the name of their Language. High Elf is their grouped species name referring to any Elf that has ever been a part of Quelâthalas at one point in time.
This is a objective fact.
As the idiom is used it mainly denotes sameness. Like correcting someone who is vehemently wrong, but trying to be nice. There isnât anything else modifying the are, no like to water it down.
But even being generous, it would denote major similarity, like something that is nearly identical to the other but for a couple small changes, not something where youâre stretching to make the similarities overcome the differences. People from the same area but with different accents, twins with different eye colors.
If itâs objective fact, you should be able to go in-game right now and find just one example of any BE or VE who refers to their broader ethnicity as âHigh Elfâ.
Or, since this whole kerfuffle came out of you attacking someone for misleading people, maybe you could back down and just say itâs a difference of opinions on what the right term is, you donât agree with us, but weâre not being deceptive by saying what we think is correct?
And the creator(s)
Again, as weâve gone other for the past 12 hours+ youâre twisting my words. Itâs quite malicious.
Iâll repeat it for you since you donât understand.
Thalassian is the name of their Language. High Elf is the collect group name for the species of Elves that have originated from the kingdom of Quelâthalas at one point in time.
This is objective fact, so stop trying to twist my words and accept that facts that exist in the lore thatâs common knowledge to anyone with half a brain.
Itâs not.
As far as Warcraft has ever been concerned, Elven Races just adopt new names and thatâs their name.
Itâs not a universe that has detailed taxonomic groups.
It is.
And the fact that you yourself once lambasted me for trying to say Thalassian Elf was the name of them and then pointed out to me that it was just the name of their language is flabbergasting.
I donât know why youâre choosing to throw lore into the dirt that you once were defending.