Weâre talking about the high elves that arenât playable. You know, like the topic says? So Iâm for the most part talking about that kind of high elf in these examples. So since you couldnât counter that point you switched it all over to the void elves who while yes traitors, would still be considered from QT. Thereâs a term that fits here, Foreign Volunteer units. People who signed up for another nationâs army, not having to give up their citizenry, because they believed in the cause, or it was better than being a POW.
And also, Void Elves are already available, if they were good enough these threads wouldnât keep popping up. And we wouldnât be arguing on how different or the same the various factions of the high elves are.
This is incorrect. In Australia, youâre allowed Dual Citizenship along with most other countries if the other country that youâre from also allows Dual Citizenship.
When someone says High Elf, they tend to mean the ones serving with the Alliance or more correctly not affiliated with the Blood Elves, or the Void Elves.
But that doesnât change the fact that Blood Elves, Void Elves, Sanâlayn and Undead High Elves are still all High Elves in their DNA. And that they all came from Quelâthalas. You know, the home of all the High Elves before Human Potential visited.
There are a plethora of instances whereby HEâs, BEâs, or VEâs refer to the broader ethnicity as âchildren of Quelâthalasâ or âsons/daughters of Quelâthalasâ; the colloquialism for this would, naturally, be âThalassianâ.
There are precisely zero instances whereby HEâs, BEâs, or VEâs refer to the broader ethnicity as âHigh Elvesâ; that is something the players and the developers do, most probably as a matter of habit and not as a matter of factual accuracy.
If the term utilized to refer to the broader ethnicity was âHigh Elfâ, in-universe, then you shouldnât have any trouble finding an example of a Blood Elf who self-identifies as a High Elf (or a Void Elf who self-identifies as a High Elf).
(Note: They donât refer to themselves that way, in-universe, so you wonât find any examples.)
Also, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, please take stock of the fact that this is attempt #9 at coaxing JUST ONE EXAMPLE out of Renotarshil of an in-universe BE or VE who self-identifies as a High Elf.
Of course it doesnât. Thats not the point of using Thalassian. Its to make it more clear whom weâre talknig about and when.
And I specifically say that weâre dealing with a group of elves all from QuelâThalas. But theyâre clearly different groups both ideally, and politically.
Take it as you will. its not like weâre making official stuff here.
Totally forgot bout the Sanâlayn for moment. lol
Thatâs the lore thatâs common knowledge. Maybe you should go read up on it? Instead of being ignorant about it.
I wish it was, There needs to be a better name for all of them together otherwise you get the High Elf confusion that Fyorsing just doesnât understand.
Ahaha, I found something that will put all the proâs out of place!
In consequence, there are so few high elves left on Azeroth today that they cannot be considered a race in anything other than the biological sense. High elves do not gather in any significant numbers, nor do they act as a coordinated whole. They are a very small group of individuals scattered all over the world. As such, they do not have common opinions or goals. Indeed, modern high elves cannot even truly be said to have a cultureâonly a past filled with glory and regret.
Thatâs not saying what youâre claiming it says.
Youâre putting words in their mouth so you can beat up the strawman that you are able to defeat, rather than the point they made that you canât.
That no matter what they call themselves theyâre still high elves. High elf isnât the political name, itâs more of like the scientific name, itâs the broad name for that form of elf no matter what they refer to their specific group as. Or, more broadly, itâs an easier way for us as players outside of the game world to refer to all of those elves.
I disagree. As I said the standard way youâd do this in real life would be to take the country of origin, and use that as the base with an ending on it to denote its a person from said place.
QuelâThalas + ian = Quelâthalasian. Its kinda clunky and as people often do you shorten it to work a little better and get Thalassian. Often do this with a cultures language too.
High, Blood, Sanâlayn, Void, etc, would all be of Quelâthalas and thus Thalassian.
Works perfectly as a catch all. The words weâve got otherwise then pertain directly to one group over another.
You might want to re-read. I was agreeing with you when I said I wish it was Thalassian Elf instead of High Elf as the broad term. So that this High Elf confusion that occurs to people like Fyorsing is prevented.