Sigh as the other poster indicated I should have ignored you lot when you started sounding like monotonous āI have to have the last word to look smartā records.
I truly regret trying to explain the concept of āNot derailing a threadā.
Canāt say Iāve tried but Iāll let you have the last word for the cause of the thread.
This is just transference on your part Dalfurane. The post I have quoted is literally a case of āIf theyāre smart they wonāt respond any further.ā. This is a rather snide way of trying to get the last word in, and trying to trap someone from responding.
I truly regret trying to demonstrate to you the hypocrisy of your actions.
Sweet.
You did the last word thing again. I should know, I do it a lot when I want to be snide.
Iāll tuck it away, wish you farewell, and suggest you never come back because it would contradict this post of yours.
I thought you were going to give the last word?
Oh wait, youāre doing that thing where you give the last word, come back and respond to a completely unrelated post from way back to try and passively aggressively get it.
Cool, lets do this then.
What does this have to do with anything?
Greatbrae was stating portals cannot transfer a large amount of people in response to Murgatroyd.
Your response is not at all related to it.
Wow. Since you directly responded to me, Iāll say this one last time: Letās all stop derailing this thread.
Iām discussing lore with someone else which doesnāt even indicate your post and you already have a problem with it.
Iām speechless. I asked someone else a question because I wanted to know his opinion on the lore and you randomly felt Iām being passive aggressive?
This is the last time Iām responding to you because honestly me, you and another poster have already brought in way too many unnecessary wars in here.
Because he had already paid the debt he felt they had with Arator, you missed this part.
That was a thing for High elves from the very beginning, they werenāt exactly BFFs with humans, itās always been an alliance of convenience. Alleria and Vereesa and their crush for humans at that point were not the norm, they were an anomaly.
Yes, thatās what a decent person would do instead of acting as if they were Captain Hindsight, point out what could have been done and take off after doing nothing.
Because thatās exactly what they did after that. By the time Arthas made it to Dalaran the civilians were already evacuated and only a small resistance group was left and did absolutely nothing after returning either.
They simply went back to Dalaran and continued to ignore their own people.
I donāt care about making them look better as a whole, just when it comes to doing the right thing and staying/returning when it was needed instead of cowering behind someone elseās back. Even Void elves have the moral high ground when it comes to that point, because while they obviously didnāt agree with the renamed High elves joining the Horde, at least they went back.
I would say the tipping point for tensions between the Humans and the High Elves rose to a bigger point when the Trolls razed human cities and elven cities with both sides playing Politics. I think it was the generic ZulāAman or Some trolls?
Correct me if Iām wrong because my lore isnāt nearly as good at that point in the Warcraft Universe.
Your response is unrelated to what was being discussed. The topic being discussed was the capability of portals. Not lore involving portals.
For being speechless, you have a lot to say.
You stated
āHave the last wordā
You then respond to a post you were not involved in previously, in a completely unrelated way. Its as bad as catching a teenager sneaking out and them doing āI was just mowing the lawn at 10 p.m. at night with no lawn mower.ā
You said that last time as well Dalfurane, and then you threw out a post that made little sense.
Again, what does your post have anything to do with the discussion of portals? It makes little sense dude.
It was the Amani trolls which the high elves had been at war with forever. In anycase, the high elves had always been isolationist in their attitudes. High elves such as Alleria favored the alliance because she had suffered a great loss at the hands of the trolls and Horde, and so she felt indebted to them.
Anasterian focused on the bigger picture, and knew being involved with humans only invited constant conflict.
Yes, it was during the Troll wars against the then Amani empire.
The high elves were on the process of occupying Quelāthalas which belonged to the Amani because they sensed what was crawling under Tirisfal and decided that dealing with forest trolls was a better choice but it took them 4000 years to retaliate for real and thatās when they requested help from the humans.
Whatās really interesting if you think about it from the trollsā perspective it makes a lot of sense. The Amani were essentially displaced from their homes by colonialists from Kalimdor.
It is a real shame. Both the Troll wars and the 300 year long War of the Three Hammers were really interesting times that have never been exploited in game.
It would truly show us the lore implications of how the Silver Covenant, High Elves and the Alliance broke off from being somewhat friends to outright bitter.
They really should show a lot of the lore from Warcraft 1 and 2 in Caverns of time to make sure people understand the story.