My expectations are known. They are pretty low, but that does not mean Iâll stop asking.
If my predictions are right, War Campaign should end with Sylvanas escaping on a Kvaldir fleet, revealing Helya was the one that put her in power, and then she goes to somewhere across the oceans for her endgame plan.
If thatâs the end of 8.2.5, then beware, my Quelâthalas prediction is several steps closer to become true.
No mounts datamined, thought (if I remember correctly).
I wonder if thereâll be new activities.
With the dark irons being an official Alliance race now, maybe it will be some other Horde race that will invade Allianceâs brewfest?
Thereâs also new allied race brew vendors⌠which include a vulpera vendor and maybe a mechagnome as well.
Would be very weird if the Dark Irons of the Past would start attacking the Alliance with the Dark Irons joining the Festival. Would it suck if Old Coren Direbrew would be replace for the Lore? Yes. But sometimes Change must happen.
I wanted to apologize. I know I was a bit of a jerk in the past about High elves as a potential AR. My thinking has since changed in that regards. I am all for more options and AR possibilities. Perhaps in some way or some form you may get your wish someday.
Again. It still would be very weird for the Dark Irons to be attacking the Alliance at Brewfest while the other Dark Irons who are Friendly battling against their kind.
I was thinking of maybe a Horde invasion on the Allianceâs Brewfest?
Dude, the SC and Sunreavers send you to kill each other agents in the sewers. You definitely misunderstand open war with hostilities. They are a step beyond from city sanctioned gangs when they shadily take each other agents. Itâs really incomparable to the differences between Magisters and Farstriders. And the charade of civility is clearly absent outside of Dalaran itself.
Both the SC and the Sunreaver have holdings on Crystalsong forest that are KoS to the other faction, no trappings of neutrality, if you are of the opposite faction, you are gone. As well as in Dalaran, is the armistice that prevents violence between factions in the Argent Tournament.
Because Vereesa doesnât have a direct superior on the Alliance.
Also Vereesa appears as an alliance leader during the PvP honor quest, she is also the alliance envoy to the Vindicaar.
Again, because she and the SC arenât shown to be active during the current war, thereâs no reason to believe they have changed considerably from dealing with the Horde in Crystalsong Forest, and again, you try to single out the SC over every other alliance faction not currently active on the war.
Because you believe that Dalaranâs neutrality, which didnât mean squat when you were an Hordie stepping into the WIndrunnerâs Overlook, somehow is something that extends beyond its borders.
Maybe Dalaran is preventing the SC to openly join the faction War, we donât know, but thatâs the thing, as far as we know, SC and Sunreavers continue to treat each other as Kill on Sight outside neutral territories as they did in WotLK.
I know, they were like dogs let out of the leash, as if their civility was something enforced on them.
And? Iâm not talking about the clearly neutral Argent Crusade or Kirin Tor High Elves, we are discussing the SC high elves, who are alliance, act on its interest as its liaisons in northrend, and kill horde on sight when non in neutral grounds.
Itâs really ridiculous that thereâs even a discussion about the Silver Covenant being an alliance faction.
Yeah but hostilities seem to vary from elf to elf, like take the purge of Dalaran for example; some elves were exceedingly brutal, while others were no more hostile than needed. If all the Silver Covenant shared the same animosity as one another Iâm sure no Blood elf in the sewers would have made it out alive. In fact itâs one of the notable themes to high elves according to the Wow Encyclopedia.
High elves are a very small group of individuals scattered all over the world. As such, they do not have common opinions or goals.
The Warcraft Encyclopedia/High Elves
Indeed the sewers are used by those who prefer to carry out more âmurkyâ business away from prying, judgemental eyes, this includes murdering, and stealing from even members of the same faction. This is why players become flagged to one another upon entering the sewers, and just like itâs the players choice to engage, and enter an Alliance encampment and fight the Silver Covenant, itâs the players choice to engage and fight members of the same faction as well.
And âHoldingsâ being hostile, and attacking on sight is more of a game mechanic to keep members from the opposite faction from attacking players in their safe zones. The Silver Covenant is never mobilized as a formal group and sent out to fight the Horde, but rather are stationed defensively should players âChooseâ to engage. Take Nazj for example, some of the voice lines from the Giblins refer to the Allianceâs Ankoan as friendly, although from a gameplay perspective they are constantly battling should players engage in combat with each other. The Ankoan and Giblins will also attack the apposing faction on sight, despite the fact that neither oneâs goals are to destroy, and defeat the apposing faction, theyâre merely mechanics to stop the apposing faction from entering each otherâs safe zones. I think itâs important to distinguish game mechanics like hostile NPCs from the actual story.
But thatâs really the point isnât it? Aethas serves Quelâthalas first and foremost, and answers to Lorâthemar, Vereesa servers Dalaran first and foremost and answers to the council. Both hearken to who their groups answer to, and serves over all others.
And where is she in BFA? Why isnât she seen with any of the other Alliance leaders? Why is she not involved in any narrative in a whole expansion centered around gaining allies, and fighting together to defeat the apposing faction if Blizzardâs idea is that sheâs an active fighting force for the alliance? You donât think her overall absence is even slightly suspicious?
Because every other âAllianceâ npc faction typically only appears âonceâ and are only involved as long as it has something to do with whichever narrative they belong to. They âStayâ wherever you found them when their story reaches itâs conclusion, while Dalaran, the Kirin Tor, and the Silver Covenant are a prevalent group that show up in multiple expansions whenever the Horde and the Alliance are fighting some common threat that jeopardizes Azeroth.
You seem under this impression that these game mechanics are anything more than that, a mechanic the game uses to prevent players from stepping into the other factions zone, and is not the best example to use to make your point. Neutrality doesnât mean they have to sleep, and eat next to each other, it simply means that they are not âat warâ with one another.
If the idea was to imply that the Silver Covenant was an active force willing to engage the Horde in Crystalsong forest for the sole sake of defeating them, even while under Neutrality I doubt theyâd have them remaining stationed in defensive positions, guarding the Alliance camp.
The Silver Covenantâs aggression was because they believed the Horde was responsible for the bombing of Theramore, before Garroshâs hand in the event had come to light, it was not because their âcivilityâ was enforced upon them. It was only when Jaina met Lorâthemar face-to-face did they learn that the Horde, and the Sunreavers in particularly was largely unaware of Garroshâs plans to bomb Theramore.
And yet the only example of them fighting you can muster up is when a Horde player steps into an Alliance encampment, which can largely be considered a game mechanic. The Silver covenant as a group has never mobilized formally with the sole interest of fighting Horde troops in any instance while Dalaran maintained itâs neutrality, and thatâs not about to change anytime soon.
How many times did Blizzard refuse people Classic servers?
Blizzard is known to change their mind, and if faction disparity becomes that big an issue, you can bet High Elves are coming out of their asses. Just like how they pulled in succession, WoD, Legion, and BFA out of their asses lore wise to combat sub loss.
And they also said flying would no longer be a feature starting from WoD⌠yeah, you canât take Blizz seriously. And thatâs why they never said âno, neverâ to HEâs, cause they know how they roll.
âWe will not implement role qeue into overwatchâ
Like how many times do I have to bring up Blizzard going back on what theyâve said. Or is each and every time a company goes back on their word ânot the same thingâ.
If weâre going to include the retcons made to the lore as examples of them going back on their word then weâre going to have to list out several pages of examples that invalidate your own comment âHeheâ.
Betting money now if either Alliance subs or subs in general drop too low where they cant make enough money from the store alone they will bring HE in to get people back. I mean i would personally spend $60 to turn 3 toons of mine into HE. Who knows how much others with way more income would spend. Its literally a cash cow waiting to happen.
Yeah. this is the biggest reason high elves will happen and there is no if about it (taking into account the game wonât be shut down anytime soon nor the human race will go extinct)
actiblizz wants money. High elves are a crap ton of money waiting to be made. If the current dev leadership wonât do it their successors will.
High Elves will come eventually, it may just take another 5 years or so. I donât believe they blur the faction line, and even if they did that line has been blurred a long time ago
