They keep believing that the central Thalassian elf story shifts over or is âsplitâ, if High Elves are added. Blood Elves will obviously always be the main story carried over from WC3.
High Elves have built their own story for themselves in WoW and it doesnât need to be attached to the past apart from brief mentions, as no one is that oblivious.
Blood Elves still keep their city, their zones, their Horde friends and guilds, their mounts.
You mean stuck to their oaths to their allies, and didnât bail like the pathetic and cowardly blood elves did against the Horde, Thanks. Donât need to low-ball them in the story to fit your sad narrative of negativism. They can have separate stories leave your opinions out of it.
Velen restored the Sunwell. The army formed by draenei and blood elves were the ones that made that possible.
Not one high elf was there actually doing anything.
They can simply continue to be the cannon fodder theyâve been for 15 years, itâs fitting for people that didnât wish to be of help to their own people. But having enough autonomy to venture separately into the world? They did not earn it.
A little too late and it seemes they only picked the fight that was conveniant. Apparently dealing with the aftermath of Arthas and the corruption of the fount of magic theyâre connected to was too much work for them
(And again, Iâm talking current, valid lore, the majority of those that call themselves high elves have not expressed anything about the way the blood elves dealt with the magic thirst)
This didnât happen, the only one that is still showned as exiles are the ones at Quelâlothien lodge. Everyone else simply refused to return.
So thatâs their cheap excuse to not help their own people when that happened long before they were even considering joining the Horde?
If you will make stuff up, can you at least make things up that at least try to make sense?
Yes, they waited⊠thatâs why they went and fought Kaelâthas, thatâs why they were half of Shattered Sun offensive, because they âwaitedâ.
raiding and endgame content is enjoyed only by a single digit number percentage wise.
Even if we said 10% of each population did engage in the endgame, the difference would be only by a single percentage between the two.
People who tend to paly that endgame content generally tend to stay with the people they are raiding with anyway, and that means remaining on the same faction./
The only time the alliance had an advantage in raiding/pvp participation wise, was back in vanilla, when they outnumbered the horde 2 to 1 and in some case 7 to 3.
After TBC, when the population between the two shrank significantly, you saw alliance guild participation become even, and then less than horde all the way until WoD, where the alliance had insanely overpowered racials.
I never mentioned the helves. I said the Alliance. As per the Chronicles, the Alliance and Horde were also on the Sunwell Island. The Horde took out Kaelâthas again, while the Alliance took care of the raid.
This is perhaps the dumbest thing Iâve ever heard of in my life and I sincerely hope that helves not only become playable but also get their own kingdom now. Simply because this is dumb. This is like saying Humans shouldnât be playable because Stormwind barely did anything to save Lordaeron during the Third War, but took money from Lordaeron to be rebuilt.
You realize that in the Amani Dungeon in Cata, the messenger from Lorâthemar refers to Vereesa as an Exile as well, right? She wasnât from that lodge.
Youâre forgetting the obscene advantage they had during WoD in PvP. I still remember how they liked to say that having a 70% win rate of BGs meant things were finally âbalancedâ.
No they didnât. When their race was on the edge of annihilation and their prince/king was imprisoned in Dalaran, they didnât do anything.
When Cataclysm happened, it was Halduron who invited them to come assist. They did not volunteer it of their own accord.
Which no one knew
and they were invited to come back and they refused.
You say quite a bit of nonsense, perhaps you shouldnât be commenting?
This one is a bit hard to fathom. Letâs see⊠Kael was imprisoned in Dalaran. What helves were aware of that who were in a position to act before it was even resolved? We know from Chronicles that the population of Dalaran, save for a small elite force, was evacuated, meaning most of the helves of Dalaran were gone as well. Helves with Jaina were on Kalimdor, I suppose they and other helves around the world were just supposed to magically know Kael needed help and the race was destroyed. Actually, letâs blame Alleria. She had void-powers by then, she should have Void-Rifted over to Dalaran and freed all the belves and Kael and then sent Garithos on a one-way trip to the Void.
Volâjin knew, considering he attended the meeting Zul held, gathering the troll empires/tribes, intending to revitalize them.
Why come back if the reason you left has remain unchanged? Itâs like you think helves out to not behave rationally or something.
I mean, your argument there is predicated on the idea that the helves donât deserve to ever be anything other than casualties because they disagreed with the belves on the direction of QuelâThalas and accepted exile instead of what turned out to actually be a ruinous path the belves were only spared from at the last second by the grace and intervention of⊠well⊠the Alliance.
Your point is literally based on, âthe helves were right, I want them to suffer for it.â If thatâs not spite, what is?
I like how theyâve been introduced and how they look and act. To me, itâs nice to have something fresh that doesnât have mountains of baggage yet still retains a lot of potential for future storytelling!
I enjoy the addition of the void elves and I think it adds an interesting dynamic to the Alliance.
The elite forces had all been killed by the Scourge. There was a minimal presence of Kirin Tor while Kaelâthas was rebuilding the city during WC3 TFT. All we really had was a jailor, and later, a short-story that put Modera there as well. There is as much evidence to say there were helves there, as there were that there were helves on the Sunwell Island.
Iâd say them being in the Horde was more of a factor here, to be honest. In Shadow of the Sun, the captain of the EP lodge makes it clear what he thinks of that.
Yeah, they chose exile over corruption. Go figure.
That would call for Velves to have an impact on the story and so farâŠ
But yeah; one would consider rightly than the elves that got recently exiled because of their search for power to secure their homeland would be more effect on the BE story than the ones that left longer ago and actually have had a chance to move on.
On the other hand, I can totally see Blizz never bothering to link the Velves again with the BE story lol
Except that during the fight Kassan does summon reinforcements throughout the battle, so to suggest that all there really was, was Kassan and later Modera, is a poor argument to utilize.
hell, the fact Modera was there is pretty damning given her position, and Rommath also makes note his grudge towards the Kirin Tor has to do with their knowledge of knowing their imprisonment.
No it was not. it was stated explicitly they were pissed off at Lorthemar offering anything after exiling them for five years. In fact, they acknowledge Lorâthemar did not know of what occurred and would not allow it to happen, but are derisive because of how long they had been ignored.
The blood elves being horde wasnât the issue at all. Their reason is that if they are abandoned they will stay abandoned. hence the comment of not considering themselves a part of lorthemars people.
No, they chose to stay as human bed warmers over assisting their people.
In fact Vereesa states she would have been a blood elf if it was not for Rhonin..
Not sure where you get this notion of corruption, probably where youâre getting the notion of high elves being money for a rainy day.
That is LITERALLY the definition of being a traitor.
