Funniest part is that Lorthemar was about to bail out of the Horde with his entire race bacause âScrew Garroshâ.
Vereesa was about to bail because she misses her sister and her home and had JUST lost her husband.
But yes, lets talk âreasonsâ
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Difference was that Garrosh was destroying the Horde, and dismantling it so Lorâthemar (and the rest of the horde leaders) were all contemplating leaving it. Vareesa wanted to join the Horde for no other reason than wanting to be close to her sister.
Itâs easy to ignore the circumstances that surround an event to better suit your agenda, but honestly it just makes your argument seem more contrived in the end.
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Was it an internal moment? Something she was just thinking or did she actually begin making motions for it. There is a big differenece. Because we all think crazy stuff when weâre emotionally distressed, we just donât have an omnipotent writer creating a written narrative about it.
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I see that the âIt wonât affect anyothingâ flimsy argument has been brought up again and Iâll just say.
You have as much proof that it wonât affect anything as those against them have proof that it will, meaning, both sides are speculations.
Meaning⊠that you should stop trying to pass speculation based on nothing but wishful thinking as facts while trying to discredit speculations that go against what you want.
But this kind of double standard itâs common when it comes to this topicâŠ
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She made plans with Sylvanas to join the Horde, who expected her arrival after carrying out the plan to poison Garrosh. This idea was Vareesaâs by the way, Sylvanas was not trying to coerce or convince her of anything.
This is why in the three sisters comic she apologizes to Sylvanas for not carrying through with their plans, and instead of meeting in person to tell her why she changed her mind, she merely sent a letter. It was what broke Sylvanasâ heart, as she cares very deeply for her sisters, despite what she would prefer them to believe.
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lorâthemar definitely had reasons to take the blood elves to the alliance.
Garrosh sent blood elves on an expedition to a mogu ruin. The caveat was that garrosh had full intel reports of what was waiting for the blood elves but didnât tell them until after the fact because âonly the strong deserve to be in the horde. If you canât handle a few spirits what does that sayâ
They really murdered garrosh as a character in MoP. they can still be strong and have the intel knowing what is waiting for them.
what does this matter. the blood elves can choose their allies as they see fit
meanwhile you like to fanfiction the SC is aligned with stormwind and the alliance and not dalaran and the kirin tor. while their âleaderâ contemplated leaving dalaran and got as far as trisfal glades. she didnt even have to inform anyone in the alliance and do you know why? because shes not a part of the alliance. all she has are alliance sympathies. sympathies that now appeared to be meaningless without rhonin. she was merely going to slip away after the deed and head to undercity to rule the forsaken with her sister and simultaneously gain access to her homeland again which she expressed a desire for
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Yeah, I donât contribute Lorâthemar trying to escape Garrosh as wanting to leave the Horde, as itâs not really the Horde itself that is the cause. Which is why the rest of the Horde leaders, Lorâthemar themselves rebel and overthrow him.
Vareesa on the other hand was not pressured under similar conditions, there was noone on the Alliance threatening the life of her and her people, she simply wanted to join the Horde to be closer to her sister.
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Bahahaha.
Double standards? Look at the long discussion about vereesa apparently wanting to hop sides, but lorthemar wanting to doesnt count apparently and these convoluted tactics to try and explain it away. Sheesh.
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Please, stop taking a mere plot twist as something that was even possible.
It really wasnât, they were not going to move a race from one side to the other essentially overnight. It made no sense for it to happen at all.
Iâm well aware of how disingenuous you like to be, but if you think that a single character jumping ship can be compared to an entire race being moved from horde to alliance, then your perception itâs far more skewed than I originally thought.
You act like circumstances donât have anything to do with the decisions theyâve made?
The fact that Lorâthemar wasnât trying to leave the Horde itself, but trying to escape Garroshâs oppressive rule (Like all the other loyal Horde leaders who broke away and made their own Horde) is the same as if he were to have asked to join the Alliance out of no where? How can you pretend that this is the same?
nowhere does lorthemar state he was going to join the alliance. varian is the one who states he was negotiating with them to come back. negotiations that likely sprang out of their talks to topple garrosh together
meanwhile the SC leader has demonstrated the only reason she remains in dalaran, is for her children who would not be accepted for what they are in silvermoon or with the forsaken 
Honestly Iâve never known Kirela to behave like this. Itâs something Iâd expect from Alf, but not her. Iâm a little disappointed.
Veressa wanting to be with her sister in a moment of grief and get vengeance one the one responsible for her husbandâs death. But coming to her senses and to this day supports the Alliance.
Yeah, context is important.
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She didnât come to her senses because of her loyalty to the Alliance, she came to her senses out of loyalty to her children. Yes, context is very important.
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The same goes for you.
I am well aware of vereesa as an individual vs lorthemar and the blood elves combined. The issue is players attempting to use vereesa as an example for silly arguments and fight about how âneutralâ she is or whatever the goal is⊠When theres an example on the opposite side of the coin with even larger consequences.
Vereesa didnt join the horde. Lorthemar didnt take the blood elves to the alliance. Obviously blizz wasnt going to let either one happen, but they decided to add the idea for the story, but here is the long complicated bickering session attempting to âproveâ something.
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how is raising children in dalaran helping the alliance who are in an all out faction war atm? never mind the fact she is tied up with the neutrality of dalaran 
Also add to the fact that she still hates the Horde.
She just wanted to be with her sister after her husband died. Not âGo join the Hordeâ.
In her most recent appearance she says that one day Blood Elves will come to their senses and rejoin the Alliance.
She literally equates being in the Horde as not being in the right state of mind.
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is there a source for this?
Iâm not the one blind to blatant double standards, that is you.
Yet, you compared themâŠ
Perhas the point is that sheâs simply a big name displaying this flimsy loyalty. Then you have the ones that are still visiting the Sunwell that are obviously ok with the rest of their people. Vereesa is just a name (an a pretty useless one at that), but she only is a representation of how all over the place the supposed âundying loyaltyâ of the High elves is.
And she very well could have and that would have had no impact in the game whatsoever. While moving one race from one side to the other would have been huge.
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