They just donāt want you to have a cheap reskin of one of their core races.
As an Alliance player, Iām inclined to agree
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So youāre saying the vast majority of pro-ally donāt want fair skinned blue eyed elves? Causeā¦most of the uproar derived from that.
And no, they canāt, as there hasnāt been sufficient time passed for anything the alliance elves to have that the horde ones would not. Itās been like a decade in gameā¦how exactly would there be any physical difference? There wouldnāt be, not anything the blood elves themselves wouldnāt also showcase, and the political subfaction isnāt a good reason for an AR. Even blizzard agrees with this standpoint.
Alliance high elves donāt have anything different except eye color and a very limited different history, but theyāre the exact same race as the Horde elvesā¦meaning theyāre already playable in game and arenāt getting released on the alliance to make another race effectively a neutral pick.
Again, this is why void elves exist and thatās almost certainly their way forward for the alliance faction elf story, not the main story of the race as a whole since thatās the blood elf story now.
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So what youāre saying is people take personal issue with the addition of High Elves for a vain reason?
Yeah, guess youāre right, it is just about keeping the āmuh pretty modelā for you rather than anything significant, isnāt it?
But i guess you just missed the part where weāve more than offered Nightborne level tweaks to a High Elf model that would do away with your idea of ācarbon copyā, because unlike you, weāre willing to bend to make you feel better, even when we have 0 reason to, with the support the game itself gives to High Elves as an Alliance Race.
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This goes back to those self imposed restrictions I keep mentioning. Kul Tirans were just normal humans before they were made to be playable. Dark Ironās were just darker Dwarves before being made playable, now they have awesome fire beards nā stuff. Why couldnāt the same be done with High Elves? Different hair styles, animations, body proportions, maybe get a little cheeky and throw in some new eye colors, etc
It wouldnāt be ground breaking stuff, and itās been done before. Believe me I donāt want to hurt the Blood Elf identity, Iād like High Elves to be added in a manner thatād be best for everyone
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No, we donāt want the Alliance having a carbon copy of one of our entire races. Thatās always been the primary drive for most.
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Go ahead and point to where I said we wanāt an exact copy of your Blood Elves?
While you do that, ill link you this.
Look at the OP and tell me how those ideas and model renders are ācarbon copiesā of Blood Elves.
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Then they say lore wonāt allow for them to be different, trust me the argument is set to go in circles on purpose.
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Because high elves already are Horde. Dark Iron? Dwarves are already Alliance. Kul Tirans? Humans are alliance.
The only outlier in the entire AR thing has been nightborn and void elves, and to make a different high elfā¦
Void elves were born. Thatās the entire point. Otherwise they could have lighter skin options and look like a blood/high elf with different eye colors. Whatās the literal point of void elves if they could just slap blue eyes on a blood elf and give it to the Alliance? Cause thatās essentially what would be done, thereās almost no immediate lore and itās only back bending to go āoh man there could be all this crazy shizz to make these elves playable on alliance!ā that would basically not make them high elves anymore or contradictory since thereās no real reason why most of the blood elves wouldnāt have similar physical traits. The only thing that could differ in such a short time without direct outside influence (HELLO Void elves?) would be their faction allegiance and very minor things of their cultureā¦and to the first itās not enough since theyād be identical to an already playable race and for the second partā¦non horde high elves donāt have a very strong or united cultureā¦but the blood elves do since theyāre the continuation of the race.
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Oh Iām more than well aware, this one seems new so iām trying to edumicate.
Funny part is Lore allows them to be any shape and size, thatās the great part of lore and world building, it can be changed and still make sense.
Not that it needs to in this case just to make the bundle of 6 or 7 antis happy, who will just stroke out if High Elves look exactly like Blood Elves, as opposed to the 95% who really donāt care one way or the other.
Have you actually looked at the population numbers? I feel you have not, at 120, Horde has a 53,5% of the population. That is a whooping 3,5% advantageā¦ even lower than what Alliance had when they were the ones dominating population numbers. High elves could tilt the balance (far more than ābalancingā it) while at the same time not fixing the problem Alliance has with progression. Blizz canāt fix Alliance players not being interested in high end raiding. The funniest part of this is that Alliance races do better than Horde ones in mythics, but hey, better ignore that, yes?
No. Vanilla is a move to protect their intellectual property, if you want to believe the fantasy that a company did it for their players and not because their porperty was being stolen, then go ahead, but they arenāt that nice.
High elves in the other hand is a request by a very niche group of people and they lose nothing by not making it happen but still bother to keep that carrot on the stick for people to pay for a sub in hopes they eventually catch that carrot.
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Then the high elves would be getting something that the blood elves donāt have. 
the only way to move on is to discuss their implementation and the art work for them.
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Ahem
So apparently you are beyond thinking beyond the surface of model appearances.
If you give High Elves the Nightborne level tweaks, they cease to be High Elves. Much like the Nightborne are no longer their previous iteration.
For you people it literally is āmuh pretty modelsā¦ oh wait sprinkle in some weak political difference, those antis are stupidā. Pro High Elf in a nutshell.
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Alliance players are quitting in droves are or being a lot less active. Take a look at the forums. Most topics are alliance players asking if the game is even worth playing anymore
You accuse me of not having my facts straight and you turn around and say itās a āniche group of peopleā? Everyone Iāve talked to at Blizzcon has been supportive. The two or three people irl Iāve spoken to who might have a problem with it are just sceptical. Thereās a lot more of us out there than you think.
And you think Void Elves solved this issue? The race created out of thin air as a sad ācompromiseā.
So their interactions with the Alliance Wrath-Legion just donāt count as lore yeah?
No one is saying theyāre united, but they could easily be united with story telling, and that can happen at the same time and not take away from the āmainlineā Thalassian race that is Blood Elves.
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Trolls. you mean trolls. Start linking these topics please. 10 bucks its some stupid retail/classic trollfest garbage.
It is a niche group. A few thousand at most combinging things like MMOchamp forums and your discord. Thats. It. Just because you talked to 10 people at Blizzcon who are likely being led on by you because i question first this actually happened and two you never bothered to lay out the argument against, faithfully.
I think that from now on, in order to fix problems in game we should just send Licynia to Blizzcon and have her go person to person to get the real pulse of the players. Surely the 10s she gets thru represent everyone right?
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Youāre right, i shouldnāt care about your anti tears and have them just be the exact same thing as the Blood elf model with blue eyes. And honestly thatās the way i personally view it. But people are nicer than me and have given you all wiggle room so you can keep your pearls firmly attached to your necklace.
Itās your opinion that a different model would make High Elves ānotā High Elves, Zandalari have a different model and are still trolls. Kul Tirans have a different model and are still human, see how this crazy idea of āmodel designā works?
Oh boy, there it is again, low-balling High Elves to try and make your case. Iām so excited to see desperation 
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Lay off my tears, should be mindful of your own considering youāll never see the day you rob the Horde of their High Elves.
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Blood Elves joined the Horde. In modern WoW āHigh Elfā specifically refers to the thalassians that didnāt join the Horde, and most of them are with the Alliance, or are at the very least Alliance sympathisers
It isnāt the Blue eyes and fair skin that defines them, itās who they associate with (thatās literally all that defines them at the moment). Building upon the visuals that would be available to playable Quelādorei wouldnāt suddenly mean theyāre not High Elves anymore
And despite the existence of Void Elves, why does that suddenly mean High Elves canāt be playable? Itās just a self imposed restriction
When Blizz added the Demon Hunter class, I was surprised to see that it only had two specs. I was glad though, because even though every other class has 3 (or 4 for druids, the lucky tree huggers!) Blizz didnāt feel the need to force a 3rd spec into them simply because, āThatās just how it has been so far.ā I was relieved that they started thinking outside of the box
I remain unconvinced that they canāt think outside of the box for High Elves. What about the lore says that every single thalassian needs to have the same posture and body type? Iām pretty sure thatās just a game design to save the devs time, otherwise Iām sure they come in many shapes and sizes, just as there are different shapes of humans now
Alliance High Elf loyalists exist, and theyāve shown that they will fight and die for the Alliance. Whatās stopping Blizz from making them playable some point down the road?
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Canāt rob what they donāt have.
They have Silvermoon high elves specifically. Renamedā¦ you guessed it. Blood elves
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So what i said. We have the High Elves. end of story.
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