Lmao I always supported Helf options for the Alliance. Just not at the expense of taking away the Belf-Helf identity. Although tbh I’m not surprised you’d think I’m an “anti” since Helfers tend to operate on polarity.
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Nah, Blood elves have no integrity:
Baenan spat on the floor near the elf’s feet. “Ye blood elves wouldn’t know nobility if ye had th’ definition tattooed on yer foreheads. Pathetic, slavering magic addicts, ye even sold out yer own people!”
Talithar’s face whitened, giving Baenan the satisfaction of having hit a nerve. He realized it was unwise to bait his jailor, but he was too angry to care.
“Aye,” he pressed, “I’ve met high elves in me life. I know what ye did tae them. I come from Loch Modan; I’ve heard th’ stories from th’ Farstrider lass there—”
In a surprising display of raw physical strength, Talithar crossed the room in a single stride and lifted Baenan clean off his feet, slamming him into the wall. He held Baenan there at the blood elf’s own height, almost twice that of the dwarf’s, and stared him dead in the eye.
“Do not ever—ever—mention her in my presence.” Talithar’s voice was calm, but had a menacing undercurrent that made Baenan’s hair stand on end. He’d intended to upset the elf, but the depth of Talithar’s reaction was shocking. Still, the Horde had taken Baenan captive and denied him the chance to fight with weapons, so he battled with words. And this mage was a symbol of everything he despised.
“I see ye know Vyrin Swiftwind,” Baenan said, purely out of spite. “Someone special tae ye? Well, she hates yer kind now, an’ everything ye stand fer!”
Talithar threw Baenan to the floor. The dwarf landed painfully on his shoulder, bracing himself for the mage’s wrath, but Talithar possessed a surprising amount of restraint and took no further action.
Baenan managed to push himself into a sitting position. His shoulder throbbed, but it was worth it to have provoked the blood elf. Talithar’s head was bowed, and his fists were clenched and white at the knuckles. He looked up, and Baenan’s mouth fell open.
Talithar’s face was streaked with tears.
“A wife does tend to be someone special to her husband.” His voice was thick with rage, humiliation, and despair. He reached into the front of his robe and wrenched a thin gold chain from around his neck, hurling it at Baenan’s feet. The necklace boasted no beads or pendant, just two exquisitely crafted rings, a man’s and a woman’s, high elven in design.
“You think I do not know what I am? We sin’dorei were given a choice: our integrity or our well-being. As if that were any kind of choice at all. I chose my well-being. My wife chose her integrity.”
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I never said integrity. I said honoring fallen loved ones.
Besides no race on either faction has integrity.
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Remembering the fallen takes more then changing your name while throwing out all that the fallen ever stood for. Also, the Alliance has an entire holiday dedicated to remembering its fallen. Of all race, which one would assume the high elves participate in.
The Alliance has enough integrity not to run away from a battle. Victory of death ended in Legion for the Horde.
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Belfs had no allys, very little choice. Either succumb to magic withdrawal or find a new source no matter what it took.
Survival. Im sure a draenei could understand that
You guys keep bringing up the broken shore issue and yet you still dont see how that was the only way to insure a victory later on.
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If all the draenei ever cared for was survival it would have just joined the Legion.
The fact high elves are still a thing should tell you, you are wrong.
The entire affair was suppose to be a near last ditch effort to stop the Legion. Running away was cowardly and breaks everything the Horde supposedly stood for. That is a fact regardless of how it ultimately turned out.
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High elves do exist, they’re called blood elves.
Also its hilariously hypocritical you use the horde retreating the broken shore as some sort of hail mary. Hey draenei, what happened to argus again? Oh yeah you ran away with your tails between your legs.
You wanna give crap to the horde for retreating but not acknowledge your people did the same damn thing. Dont act so high and mighty.
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What the Alliance side of the gameplay doesn’t show is that the Horde bore the entire brunt of the Legion’s assault by fighting its battlecruisers, while the Alliance stood there and had a staring contest with some demons.
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The draenei don’t scream “victory or death” every chance they get.
High elves exist and they still call themselves high elves.
Again, I am not denying that. I am however just pointing out the utter hypocrisy of the Horde war cry being about not retreating/accepting death as an outcome but turning tail when it mattered.
The Alliance side was fighting said demons. As shown by our cinematic. said “staring contest” was because we couldn’t get closer because Gul’dan would one shot you if you tried and only after could we attacking him.
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Its called picking your battles like a wise soldier does. Victory or death isnt even a horde cry, its an orc cry. At least get that right.
Again high elves are blood elves. What the alliance has are traitors that are more than welcome to return to thier home but refuse. Thats on them.
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Now all we need is actually more care and screentime for High Elves and Void Elves on the side with expanding the Void Elf Npcs in the Older Quest Zones with New Quests and such, their own District, actually more hair colors, normal hairstyles, heritage armor that makes sense, racials that doesn’t turn you blue into combat everytime, Paladin Class Feature, Druid, More Mounts, Weapons and Armor Sets, Their own Faction name, and etc.
That’s the only problems that Void Elves are facing right now. The lack of attention and fixing the lore for them in terms of High Elf Content.
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Lok’tar ogar! Victory or death - it is these words that bind me to the Horde. For they are the most sacred and fundamental of truths to any warrior of the Horde.
I give my flesh and blood freely to the Warchief. I am the instrument of my Warchief’s desire. I am a weapon of my Warchief’s command.
From this moment until the end of days I live and die - For the Horde!
Blood oath mean nothing for the Horde apparently. And yes, Victory or death is the official for all Horde. As shown by said oath.
high elves are high elves. and what we have are the ones who have always stood loyally with the Alliance when their capricious brethren left the moment it was convenient for them.
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Oath for orcs. Blood elves never took any oath, nor did the forsaken. If anything the trolls and Tauren did.
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There’s zero comparison between the two. The Horde took the full brunt of the assault while the Alliance experienced something more like a 5-year-old’s birthday party.
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Again the true original high elves are blood elves. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that
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EVERY Horde member recites this oath. Or at least did when you had a warchief.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blood_Oath_of_the_Horde_(quest)
We were literally fighting every named demon of the Horde. Effectively the Alliance was fighting the raid boss. The Horde got overwhelmed by trash mobs.
Nope, the true high elves were the one who never tossed their heritage for a hit of mana.
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Maybe during garoshs time but not thrall and certainly not sylvie. Hers was different even if the words were sorta the same.
And we all know how good the Alliance is at raiding! 
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That quest was from Wrath. Thrall was the warchief.
Almost as good as all the Horde leaders dying/getting deposed.
And Blizzard dictates high elves are high elves. As shown by the fact they are their own race.
Dude, you really should have bothered reading the quest. This was the quest to induced all the taunka in that village into the Horde.
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Well get over it bud blizz said blood elves are high elves and since they dictate it, then thats that.
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