You wish for me to indulge in the discord, but when I bring up the fact that antis were kicked specifically for being anti and not because of anything else, you say its their problem.
That doesn’t go towards making the invitation any better if I could be kicked for my stance and then it being my problem.
On the other hand, I will extend an invitation to the anti-discord, and I guarantee you won’t get kicked just because you are for high elves.
I am pretty sure that is not the pros problem. Sounds like you were removed for specific reasons. We have plenty in here and they dont get aggressive trying to prove themselves that they are right.
the developers already proved we are right. they share the exact same position we do
that the high elves are playable as the blood elves and there is no need to replicate something already playable and an intrinsic part of the horde faction identity for the alliance. if you want to play a high elf you have to play the horde as it should be. if you want to play something like a high elf and remain alliance void elves are there for you and waiting 
I don’t see any problems with a stance or posture change for High Elves. It doesn’t take thousands of years to decide to put more weight on you left foot, then your right. Or to cross your arms before you, instead of leaving them at your side. What I do disagree with, is the whole High Elves would be more muscular then Blood Elves. I’m sorry but I’m having trouble seeing how a bunch of Elves that have spent the last 15+ years hanging mostly around in Dalaran, and Stormwind. Are somehow more physically fit than those who have spent the last 15+ years fighting back scourge, and demons.
Also on the Subject of Lore says High Elves should be playable. Lore states nothing of the sort. Lore merely states that They’re Quel’dorei that have remained with the Alliance since the second war. They’re Quel’dorei that have remained loyal to Dalaran since its creation. None of this means they should be playable. In my opinion lore doesn’t dictate that any race should be playable. Lore is the reason that people wish to play a certain race. Wanting to play a race because of its lore, is different than saying, lore claims this race should be playable.
High Elves would never rejoin the Blood Elves because they exiled them. If that is true then I don’t see them joining an Alliance with Night Elves that exiled them.
I my opinion, Blizzard should or renamed the Group of Elves that abandoned Quel’thalas, when it left the Alliance after the Second War. As a Blood Elf player, I’m told that we are the legacy of the High Elves. The name we bear, and all we have done is to honor them, and their memory. So to suddenly have them playable would indeed take away the reason that Blood elves even exist. Yet if Blizzard had changed them from High Elves to something else. It wouldn’t be about Alliance wanting to take away the Blood Elves story. It would be about Alliance wanting to play out the Last 15+ years of the Alliance Elves story. Just my opinion of course.
So you are just saying this nonsense because you are a troll and want to claim that anything Ion says is right. He isnt and he is very ignorant and also does not care about lores. Many other developers have proved him wrong.
I think if I recall the arguments correctly it stems from them being more Farstrider. And that’s not to say the mage class tier of HE’s isn’t accounted for just an excuse for Blizzard to change the model ala Kultirans how skinny ones exist.
Personally I would prefer the BE / VE anyways, there’s nothing unfit about us, just the fit lean appearance. As opposed to fit and more muscular, and the model renderings I’ve seen before weren’t drastically different but different enough that it looked good.
As to the legacy of the High Elves I am more of the opinion Blood Elves are the successors to the legacy and they retain the legacy through honoring their past, but High Elves also retain their legacy via keeping to the ideals of their past and won’t advance with the BE narrative but hold to their old ways. That’s kinda how I see it if that makes sense.
I think Blood Elves honor their past but at times they show their sorrow about it with a sense of disdain like the quest in winter spring where the Blood Elf ghost has no sympathy for the HE’s that befell the same tragedy he did, his quest text is sort of “We shouldn’t have had the same tragedies as the HE’s their mistakes were OBVIOUS where we went wrong is…” so while they honor their past I think they don’t honor anyone who didn’t move on as a society with them to Sin’dorei.
I mean…that literally is their problem.
You can’t say “you are welcome to join the discord” then in the next breath say “its not our problem if we kick you for being an anti.”.
I am unsure what you mean by aggressive, but I know for a fact several were kicked despite not being aggressive individuals.
That is a rather aggressive response to what someone said in a matter of fact tone.
“You’re wrong and a troll. Ion is wrong. Other devs proved him wrong.”.
Except that they didn’t prove him wrong. Many devs, including Chris Metzen said the same thing as Ion. =\
It means if you violated rules by picking fight with people and constantly trolling, then yeah. You’d be banned. Any discord communities have that.
You’re ignoring the context Alerovia so I shall reiterate.
People who did not break the rules were banned for being anti.
You’re focused on everything else but the situation I described to you.
Why would I go to a discord that acts in such a manner?
There is a lot of lies and your attitude completely shows that you were banned for solely one thing:
Being toxic.
I was band when I had nothing but positive interactions other than one of the mods repeatedly pinging me then abusing me every time any anti said anything he didn’t like.
I’m not sure we want to get into any more of that mod’s behaviour.
You think this because the helfer discord people are pure saints?
buhahahaha!!!
Does this mean I can be unbanned because I asked to banned?
Now if it was you, I am quite convinced on why they’d ban you after all the records of your work in this forum.
We really should get one of the helfer people who actually knows the facts to admit to how they banned people with no valid reason except they just didn’t want us there.
Because quite a few of their newer followers seem to think they can do nothing wrong and that we’re a bunch of evil baddies.
This bickering is pointless prattle. Its a topic about elves, not politics
Pretty sure the antis who had been trying to pick fights are nothing but toxic trolls.
Says someone trying to pick a fight
You come off pretty toxic yourself.
They hold to human ideals, and human ways, I’ve seen nothing that shows they honor the original ways of the Quel’dorei. High Elves to me have always been self serving isolationists, out to serve themselves first. This isn’t a Blood Elf trait, it’s a High Elf one. During the start of the second war they only sent a small force to help at first. Why? because it had nothing to do with them. it wasn’t until their forest started burning that they got serious. Then when the war ended they split, because the Humans had become more of a liability to them. With Quel’thalas safe once more they no longer needed them. The High Elves have always worshiped the Sunwell, do the Alliance High Elves do this? The High Elves were exiled by the Night Elves because they refused to stop practicing Magic. Yet they’re those that refuse to use any magic at all. So what about them other than the name, makes them honor their heritage?