I’m actually surprised I agree with you here.
Change never happened because people asked nicely, read history
Oh first time someone linking an actual post I was semi wrong about since conduits and soulbinds have been added on top of just abilities so they lesser the effect of purely aoe or ST abilities : )
Blah blah blah get a clue? Seriously the system is bad unbalanced.
so you understand why players have different opinions about covenants than you keep speaking up. they want change. its not because they think their opinion is more valuable.
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If people posted opinions I would be fine, instead e have multiple wannabe elitists that even in this thread pretend everyone hates covenants and nobody wants them to stay locked
where???
Strange isn’t? It’s almost like he only speaks for himself.
Literally there was an example in this very thread, and if you actually join such threads you would see many people who also do that or post things that imply that the playerbase isnt split but everyone agrees with them.
Hell even Preach sometimes keeps repeating about how “Everyone hates it, not just us tryhards”
Check the person I was replying to since i ignored them and cant see their post.
To be fair mythic raiders and the “top” are such a small percentage of the player base. If you made a game entirely based around their opinion and thoughts it wouldn’t suit the rest of the players. That ain’t good if you’re trying to make money.
That’s why they try to cater the game to such a wide audience and toes are constantly being stepped on either side. It is quite difficult to hit a balance where everyone enjoys your game and most importantly in the case of wow - that they keep playing month after month.
If this this game was entirely about raids, ie no leveling, you started at max level and just did raids every day I wouldn’t be playing any more. It just doesn’t appeal to me and other games does that so much better.
Ralph comes up with stuff that have some weird twists but on this one he is correct. The game is designed by raiders for raiders. That’s one reason the leveling process has been trivialized.
Raiders don’t want to spend months leveling. They don’t need to experiment with different builds or specs other than to find the optimal min-max path. Raiders want to get into raids asap. Because Raiders Lives Matter©, the devs made the leveling so easy that raiders can level to max level in a few days (or mere hours if the alpha/beta is any indication).
That’s how you can tell raiders’ opinions matters more than questing casuals for example. If questers could get as good gear questing, then they would be on par with raiders.
I suggest Indian history, particularly the Quit India Movement and the life-works of Mahatma Gandhi. Or even MLK, who is constantly misquoted/misrepresented these days.
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I’ve started to notice this…
CE raiders thinking that their feedback is above everyone else…
you’re kinda running against the tide here, your “fans” arent CE raiders by any means.
Not really, raiders don’t mind leveling.
Tons of raiders in classic.
Stop blaming players for Blizzard decisions.
They made leveling easy because it was seen as entry content because WoW always has been the more easy of acess mmorpg.
It always made the game more acessible years after years with things like LFG/LFR/LFD.
With casual/solo content rewarding interesting rewards.
There’s no point in just divising the community.
If you have an issue about leveling feel free to make a thread about leveling.
Also raiders don’t mind experimenting, but that’s not what covenants do. Covenants lock you up so you can’t experiment.
The first thing a lot of people will just do is ask themselves which one is the best or do the best dps. And they’re gonna look guides to make sure they don’t get penalyzed too much with their choice. There’s tons of people doing this in wow, covenants won’t change how players play the game, it will just make it worse.
The controversy over covenants is another example of a speed bump that raiders and M+ want removed or minimized so they can get to the ‘good content’ min-maxed to get the high ilvl gear. Have cake and eat it too. In the end, the devs will accommodate them. The vocal minority usually do.
The controversy about covenants is way more complicated than just wanting to go fast. It’s about having control over your class, being able to have fun and experiment without having to make multiple of the same class which was never a thing in wow.
The devs accomodate everyone. It’s a heavy thing to balance but the goal in wow is to made everyone welcome.
We still have leveling, we have ap, we have essences, cosmetics etc. Tons of things to do outside of raids. And that’s fine. But covenants have serious gameplay and balance issues that will require tons of work for not much gain. It won’t change how players play, a true min/maxer will just make 4 of the same class. It will just penalyze heavily more the casual players, that will need to learn that by playing the game.
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I agree with you on this one. I’m unsure why this particular thread was flagged since I don’t think you’re trolling.
Because he’s being toxic about it obviously. People that want to make a better game should try to check themselves in the mirror first. You don’t win anything by doing what Ralph is doing, which is mostly trolling like people have pointed out he makes regurlarly posts contradicting himself.
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His record isn’t the best. Just that the OP seems reasonable imo
If I can’t be a top end raider or optimal in my spec, No one else can.
– Ralph.
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Bottom line: they want less ‘friction’ for covenants and soulbinds; for ‘fun’ purposes, of course, and not to optimize min-maxing. lol
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