The flying issue

Its silly ppl think that punishing is considered a good game design.

Might as well throw in deserter buff for M+ and permanent Azerite trait choice while you are at it . :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

It was fine for four expansions , it sounds like they just want to cut corners and be lazy . :rofl:

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I would want to see their definition of that term before I got excited. I am almost certain they don’t even know what it means any longer.

Here’s to holding out hope though! :slight_smile:

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The part where what most people care about what the developers think can be measured in micro-poops?

If your content requires forcing people to see it, then you are a bad artist/writer/developer. Try using the gauge of “Wow! People really wanted to see my content” instead of “Hurr Durr, they gotta do it now if they want to progress!”

How is this not blindingly obvious?

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If people have an option to travel in a straight line at more than 3x normal speed, they will use it.
How is this not blindingly obvious?

Perhaps you don’t stop flying for content that interests you, I certainly do. The issue is there is so little of it these days.

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Nothing like people forcing you to do stuff in stead of just playing it your way… Wander why I’m thinking of quitting and never coming back. This is why i love classic I’m not forced to do anything. Also i can chose to do what i like instead of being forced into doing stuff i would have never did in the first place.

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Except most of the time I didn’t fly a straight line but stopped, took turns, dived down. Archaeology, pet battles, gathering, getting to rares, worldbosses, friends, those in need of help has all become very tedious. So I chose not to buy and play retail anymore. I think players right now don’t have much imagination and have just one goal…grinding for the sake of grinding as long as there is something to grind for. Goals instead of fun.

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Yeah, that’s why there are no penalties for “skipping content” (LOL as if terrain defects and trashpacks were “content”) by using portals and FPs… only player motivated travel. Yup Yup… definitely.

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Was about to call this out as a necro, but 20th of November not that long ago really.

This was mostly true in WOD. BUT…then mandatory participation in dungeons was included in Legions Pathfinder making “just play the game” to complete Pathfinder no longer accurate. Some folks don’t like, want, can etc participate in dungeons.

World of Warcraft is my first and only and I really love this game. However, I no longer purchase expansions due to Pathfinder and am looking for a new game. It truly saddens me to see the directions Activision/Blizzard is taking the game.

/walks away quietly crying

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And how many folks play none of these because they can not fly ???

My thought is that it doesn’t make sense to lock flying behind a reputation grind when it would make much more sense and be easier on players to have it as a reward for the loremaster achievement for a given region. You want to fly in …let’s say Draenor? Sure. Just get Draenor Loremaster. In other words, play the content, get flying.

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This… The devs took a petulant attitude of “fine I’ll take my toys and go home” after the revolt in WoD and we have been dealing with that attitude ever since. Also why the game has basically died and classic rose to take its place.
Classic has it’s problems but it was designed by far better group of devs.

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That is definitely one course of action, but causing a drought, has caused Towns, Villages, and even cities, to dissapear, or become inhabited by undesirables, whotake that town, Village or City and change it, so that someone who knew what it was, would not recognize it, or they strip it of anything that gave it worth, and let nature reclaim the rest.

Do we want World of Warcraft to change?

Do we want World of Warcraft to cease to exist?

Saying things are not going to change, is the say as saying, Blizzard has made their minds up, and will not change.

As a reader of this, if that is what you believe, why are you even bothering to reply to anything written here by anyone?

:see_no_evil: :hear_no_evil: :speak_no_evil: from :heard_and_mc_donald_islands:

Ps: Blizzard, did you have to use “:heard_and_mc_donald_islands :” instead of “Australia” for the Australian Flag?

What those from down under don’t rate you using our Countries name “Australia” as the Flag Emote?

I might settle for Pandaria, but then again I will most likely, just change into a Pandarian, and visit you with my pack of domesticated Rabitroos, to do some gardening at Blizzard HQ.

Yes, it did not elude my attention, that Pandaria’s geographic location, and excessive libatious activities of the locals, the Rabitroo pest problem, yes very cute, tongue in cheek, I’m sure.

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None of them were designed with flying in mind, and provide the following

Rift: Much faster mount speed. Up to 300%
ESO: Teleporters for many, many areas and not flight masters.
TERA: Much smaller areas, provide teleporters, and flight masters who are much quicker.
Aion: Has flight though limited time.
Archeage: Gliding. Fast boots. Teleporters.

The only MMOs which run on the old addage of “Run everywhere you need to go” are MMOs like EQ1, and EQ2.
The’re not exactly popular.

Not every MMO has flying, but they provide much faster means of travel on the ground than WoW does.
In RIFT, there was this one world boss where standing on a buff increases movement speed, damage, and healing.
it stacks with your mount speed and is a stacking buff.
Every cross a continent in 10 seconds? I have, its ridiculously fun.

The only people with an issue are Blizzard. We just want flying to work the way it is supposed to instead of being punished,

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Then why are flight paths, hearthstones and the flightmaster whistle in the game? Talk about skip buttons, it what they were made for.

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Flying should unlock with the first major content patch of an xpac (i.e. 8.1, 9.1, 10.1). And Pathfinder should exist, but not be quite so onerous as it is at the moment.

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Funny how it NEVER was an issue when BC Wrath and MoP had it and in fact they went and “overworked” themselves in Cata when they made old world have flight

So spare us the whole poor overworked underappreciated developers story when they clearly NEVER had an issue until Watcher took charge and began his anti flight agenda

Not to mention all the so called flight haters “suffered in silence” and they suddenly hated flying only AFTER Blizzard brought it up

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I understand it just fine. But Pathfinder as it exists at the moment is not a good solution to that problem. It’s ham-handed, at best. Petty, at worst.

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