I just wanted to ask, in earnest, what you gents think of the retort that with TBC servers would come a hit to population of Classic servers, thus hurting both of the versions of the game and their population across the board.
I am just looking for thoughts, and I apologize for any redundancy of this subject and my contribution, I just wanted this specific inquiry and answers.
Thanks for reading!
I don’t think its wise to spin up every version of WoW, it would obviously fragment the community between them. Maybe there’s a big enough pool of subscribers to maintain such a thing, but … maybe not.
I loved BC, but I’m not advocating for BC servers, or Classic+ for that matter.
Having Classic is neat enough for me.
I say make classic+ tbc and wrath servers make a server for every expansion…I wont play them I will stay with classic, but I am not scared of them making servers for the other expansions, If they force classic servers over to them I am gone.
Give a mouse a cookie…
Just smells like the same worry that retail players had when people suggested vanilla servers. Kind of hypocritical at this point really for classic players now to be against creating a version of wow that many people love and would play for a long time.
With the popularity of classic and how many subs it has brought back to blizzard, They will eventually need to do something to keep the majority around.
So I do expect a TBC or classic+ to happen. But between the phase release schedule etc… I would not expect it to happen for another year or two at the earliest.
But when enough of the population is BIS with nothing more to keep them playing. You better believe blizzard will do what they have to, to get those subs back… which is most likely TBC
I think the popular consensus is
TBC #nochanges
Wrath #nochanges
Cata #gtfo here with that nonsense
and maybe classic+
I honestly kinda doubt we’ll get TBC and not still have dedicated a classic only servers. Even if it splits the population, there’s still many people who just want to play classic. Without Classic-only servers, we’re right back where we started from with no way to play Vanilla other than pirate servers.
Again…?
TBC Servers will, and need to happen.
Classic Servers will still stick around.
Classic + MAY happen, if it does, it does, if it doesnt, it doesnt. EIther way, I’d play both.
Classic servers aren’t forever.
I can’t imagine people are going to spend an enormous amount of time here after a while. Coming back every so often, of course, but this version of the game DOES have an ending and a limited amount of things to do.
I think that Blizzard will wait until this playerbase and the honeymoon settle before releasing any more legacy servers, and I doubt this split we’re talking about will be an issue.
It’s not “fear”. It’s just common sense. There are now 2 versions of WoW. Standalone TBC servers would introduce a 3rd version of WoW into the mix.
Classic WILL get stale. It needs a place to progress to, eventually. TBC is the next logical step for nostalgia-based products. Introducing TBC servers now not only splits the Classic player base but it also eliminates the path forward for Classic.
[No. “Classic+” is not a good idea. Having some weird alternate twilight zone development path for WoW with the devs who brought you WoD and BfA completely defeats the purpose of Classic to begin with.]
That someone is smoking dope.
If there were Classic Servers and TBC Servers, i’d probably play both.
This is made doubly so in that there will almost certainly be a mechanic for level 60 Classic Characters to copy to a TBC Server Day 1.
Hell… just use the exact same server set and clone TBC versions. So if you’re on say Westfall, your characters will exist on the Westfall version of TBC at the point they were at on Day 1 of TBC and can be advanced forward without effecting your Classic characters. Furthermore, you get to keep your names and your guilds so the transition is seemless.
In that scenario, I would almost certainly be raiding both, in-era, during the same week. Then do the same with WoTLK and they’re done.
So long as there are more than a few active servers, I don’t really see how it matters if the Classic population is split.
None of us play with ~95% of people in classic now, as they aren’t on our server.
Dead servers can be consolidated, and a few active servers will still be enough to match a Battlegroup of old.
If they do ANYTHING after Classic…
…I’d rather have an alternate timeline that has better writers.
Preferably writers outsourced and not working at Blizzard since they just copy and paste whatever is cool at the time.
I scratch my head over some of the arguments against.
Splitting the population will happen no matter what. WoW 9.0 is likely to cause a massive drop in Classic players. However, that will happen. A new TBC release will likely cause a split as well, but that is because some people like the setup of Vanilla, some like how TBC played, and other prefer Retail. Everyone is different. That said, it sounds like some of the people who do not want a population split are the same who like ganking.
Classic is VERY unlikely to change outside of bug fixes. Blizz said it outright, this is meant as a museum piece. It is as unlikely to have a planned change as much as the Mona Lisa being painted over by someone.
Even if TBC servers are confirmed, I would be surprised if they came out BEFORE phase 6 comes out. Would getting confirmation of it happening be nice, yes. But even, I, someone who wants TBC servers, would be surprised if it came out any earlier than that.
Everyone wants Classic for different reasons. You have people who prefer Vanilla mechanics most. You have people, like me, who are playing it for some nostalgia as well as to try some new things you didnt think of when WoW first came out. I would play TBC and Wrath for exactly those reasons as well.
The majority of Classic players that have not played on private servers are not likely to stick around after phase 6. As I said above, changes to Classic are very unlikely. If Blizz wants the extra subs to stick around, they will have to come out with something more. In this case, TBC servers would be the easiest and least expensive by a long shot.
That argument is flawed in the extreme because you see hundreds of posts saying take out layering but there are so many people on that if they take layering out no one could quest anything.
I would argue that the NEED to do BC to thin the herd and allow the layering to go away completely…
To me its a win/win
And then some will simply raid Classic/TBC/WotLK on different servers in the same week /yawn.
Just clone the existing Classic servers just before it goes Live.
One goes forward to TBC, the other does not. Its simple dimple.
Some will leave Classic, but there will be a sizable population remaining if private servers were any indication. There’s actually a large population of players who don’t play Classic right now but will play TBC. Ultimately, I think it’s sustainable.
I don’t really care, to be honest. I think that with WoW Classic having been out for barely over a month, the amount of conversation and speculation about these things is great, because it shows people care, and are interested.
It is also so speculative, and hyperbolic it’s well … also maybe great, because it shows people care and are interested, but also that there’s a much younger crowd that is coming of age and starting to be interested in WoW.
You hopefully have two sets of people. The ones who play all and get their characters grandfathered in with each successive server release, and the ones who play one server and start from level 1 on it. Also keep in mind if you start on a TBC Server before WotLK, your character should be grandfathered in to the WotLK server when that launches.
That setup should easily be sustainable.
I will likely not be playing TBC Server if my characters aren’t grandfathered in though. I aint starting from level 1 with a totally different character and no guild. That makes no sense to me. But give me my character set and guild and i’m good.