I understand the worry though… I also share it. The introduction of TBC and Wrath servers WOULD splinter the population and spread it over three version of the game instead of only one. I’m not counting retail in this conversation, there will always be tourists from that game but most won’t be in it for the long haul. If you add in Classic+, that spreads it out over four versions. That brings in the real possibility that the playerbase would be spread out too much with no instance having a healthy population long-term.
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Done right? No, it would not splinter the pop.
If you’re going to be deaf, dumb, and stupid(I don’t put this past Blactivision) and start everybody from level 1 on a TBC server… then yup.
If however, you clone the servers Day 0, go Live… people then go Classic TBC selection, get the exact same server list, and can play say Westfall starting from the exact point they were at with the exact same characters.
Now all you’ve done is expanded established guild ability to allow for raiding multiple expansions in-era, with the same characters in the same guild. Its so incredibly simple only Blactivision could get it wrong.
I, personally, would start over from 1 on any new TBC or Wrath server. But I don’t RAID and the leveling IS the game for me.
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Perfectly acceptable. Some people won’t have a Classic Character and can simply restart. But at the same time you want to grandfather in that already established set of guilds and server culture, to get the server started. You shouldn’t be trying to reinvent the wheel each time.
The decline of classic servers isn’t a maybe it’s a definite, funneling the people who are quitting classic into tbc is a great move for blizzard because not everyone likes running on a hamster wheel for eternity in vanilla and actually prefer tbc and wrath way more
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Oh, there will be TBC servers, and Wrath servers, it’s nothing but $$ for Blizzard. I’d love to see all the way up to MoP honestly.
But they should do it like EQ does it, when they move servers to an expansion they open a new “Classic” server for people who just want to stay there.
Heck, all the pserver people are used to servers shutting down anyway lol, the servers will be dead if they just stay in p6 forever, very few people just want the end version of vanilla and nothing else, seasonal is the only way to keep populations.
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People made the claim that Classic would split the population of live WoW too.
The thing is, many people that wanted Classic didn’t want live WoW. It’s the same for Classic and TBC.
We might be playing Classic now but if TBC does not come eventually, it’s inevitable that some TBC fans will leave.
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Don’t get me wrong, I am for TBC and especially Wrath servers. I was just pointing out that the fear of splintering the population is a real possibility imo.
I, personally, would jump on a Wrath server and stay there for good as long as they landed on a patch prior to the introduction of LFG. You all feel free to make fun, but I think early to mid Wrath was the best version of WoW. The old world was still intact, leveling was engaging, Northrend was tremendous and there was plenty to do at max-Level without ever having to step foot in a RAID.
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Meh BC stand alone servers will come out… Once Classic pop drops they will do a server merge for Classic servers to Classic Servers to keep the numbers up until it becomes no longer profitable. Will likely rinse and repeat until they stop redoing the Xpansions.
Yep wrath is the pinnacle of wow and I am looking forward to bringing my classic main through BC and wrath and crossing my fingers they just skip cataclysm completely and give us a mist of panderia server since I never got to experience it at all and the zones and dungeons are so amazing imo
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Don’t know why people hate cata so much, it had pretty good leveling, bit disjointed but overall the zones were fun, great dungeons throughout all the way to the final patch and then great raids for the first 2 tiers. And class design overall was pretty dang good.
Plus the improvements to leveling were mostly positive, I know some people hate the few “meme” zones like redridge but it made leveling so much more enjoyable in the old world.
It’s like a lot of people get hung up on how long the last tier was and how bad it was with it’s reused assets and shortness, and LFR, and just lump it into “cata bad!”
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I’d play a BC remaster or a classic+ if it cost $10. If it was priced like an xpac, I dunno.
Cata is the expansion where they destroyed the talent system. Instead of being able to choose talent from any tree you had to choose your ‘specialization’ then were stuck on that tree. They also did their first pruning pass and started to only give spells based on your specialization instead of your class. Also, iirc, isn’t this the expansion were you started to just magically get abilities instead of going to a trainer? That was incredibly immersion-breaking.
The changes to leveling were most certainly not improvements. It was cool that most zones had a theme and the quests built up to a final zone quest, but they coupled this with a complete nerfing of everything below level 80.
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That’s like, your opinion, I like the the talent trees from Cata and no there wasn’t a great prune at that point, the great prune didn’t come at all til WoD. The only thing you gained from specializations in Cata were things you basically couldn’t use in other specs. Avenger’s shield for example.
And nerfed? Have you seen the leveling in classic? It’s easy as pie.
That’s like, your opinion. I know that up until Cata I absolutely COULD NOT take on any Elite or group quest by myself until I was at least 4 levels above it - when it was grey or had been green a while. I was leveling a Paladin when Cata pre-patch dropped and he IMMEDIATELY was able to solo so-called ELITE quests that were yellow, which he could not do before.
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It wasn’t as good, but I still content MoP destroyed it. In Cata, you did have to pick a spec, but the trees were at least basically the same. It was MoP that completely revamped it to the “modern” system - more literally destroying what it once was.
“Classic servers aren’t forever.”
Well, yeah, they kind of actually are unless they eventually get closed down, that’s the whole point.
It’s a museum piece. You probably think painting a little mustache on the Mona Lisa would be cool, too. But it wouldn’t, so don’t even ask.
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I would say people saying that should shut up. They had no problem ripping the Retail community apart so Classic could exist. Its entirely disingenuous to change tack on that when it comes to ripping the Classic community apart for TBC and Wrath servers.
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I disagree… part of the fun of the Classic talent system is that I can go 5 or 10 deep in one tree then take some talents from the other tree to help while leveling. This character for example… I’m leveling shadow but have taken some early talents in Holy that will help my DPS early on.
I would definitely switched to TBC server. A lot of people would as well. so yes it would hurt overall Classic population. but blizzards can merge empty servers and there will be just less servers for classic and some servers will be TBC full.