The alliance already hates the Horde for being the proposed loved child.
Letting the Alliance hate the Horde will improve the image. The Alliance is seen as a carebear faction. There’s no edge to it. Classic Warcraft traditional Alliance races were not carebears. They were like Daelin Proudmoore. The only good greenskin is a dead greenskin. Faction war shouldn’t be an expansion theme. It should be the backdrop. All these crazy world events going on while factions kill each other in the middle of it. It’s beautiful.
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You like to mock, but the game isn’t nearly as healthy with the faction imbalances we have and are trending.
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It’s only going to get worse.
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Ok so we put Genn in command, and the Orc player will come play a Gnome. Agree to disagree.
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Curious why you feel this way. Not because I dislike Alliance versus Horde fisticuffs, more … they’ve been teaming up, now, for more than half the franchise’s life. The only games they really, consistently battled each other were WarCraft 1 and 2.
… And even in 2, Alterac went turncoat.
Gnomes can be great if we embrace their nature. I thought Mechagon was a great improvement to them, but there hasn’t been enough Goblins vs Gnomes. Sadly Hearthstone got to play with that instead of us. I’m not saying it’d work, but there has to be an attempt to make the Alliance appealing on a narrative level and not just doormats for the Horde.
And making them the Horde is also not the plan. The Alliance doesn’t have any personality. You’ve got multiple human kingdoms, and no one is power hungry? Or screwing up the plan and making bad decisions?
The Dwarven Council hasn’t done anything in terms of having in-fighting? It’s a joke. The Alliance is only a thing because there’s something to be allied against. Currently there isn’t, and so they’re currently united due to bad writing.
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There should definitely be more infighting and intrigue. Maybe we’ll get that with the Night Elves not being placated by the end results of the war.
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Right but that should lead to them leaving the “Alliance.” And slowly the factions as they currently are should return to the WC3 breakdown.
The writers have an ego problem. They have their world view and everyone else can walk - but they’re running up against logic. Like…what are the Alliance allied against?
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For a long time the Horde managed as a “united in name only” faction and I’m not talking about BFA and MOP. The Forsaken were always a sort of add-on with their own motivations. The Blood Elves, too, felt more like Forsaken allies than Horde allies. The Alliance doesn’t do this for some reason. Or at least doesn’t do it well. The Night Elves finally telling Anduin to piss off, though, gives me a little hope, but they’ll likely just be stuffed back in the box come Shadowlands.
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I honestly don’t think 10% is a lot. 1 in 10 is not a lot.
I do raid. If you had asked a few years ago, I would’ve said I raided on the alliance, but my guildies and I have recently hopped ship to horde.
Now my guildies and I don’t have to wait around for a decade in order to get a few extra players for our raid. Now we can pug Mythic Keystones at any hour of the day.
It’s ALMOST Like the Horde has a more established and populated community for endgame content. Just like I said earlier. 
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I’m starting to agree with Laxxz about you.
Only by hordies like you.
Again, only by hordies like you.
You want the horde to be seen as “the adult choice”. You’re one of those people who claims that the alliance is full of children and the horde is full of the “real players” because it makes you feel better about your choices.
I mean…you’re basically playing a human on the monster faction. At your core you’re more vanilla than I am, and you need to somehow justify yourself.
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So, you bandwagoned like everyone else did and said “oh my god, why does the alliance have no participation!?”.
You contributed to the issue, rather than seeking ways to resolve it.
If I break my leg jumping off a balcony, I don’t blame the owner of the building for putting a balcony.
I could care less what you think of me dude. you want someone to cry with you. Not doing it.
Cute assumption. I’ve mained Alliance since Vanilla, and went Horde in BFA only because my wife wanted to roll an undead.
So congrats on the ad hominem.
The alliance has ALWAYS been seen as the casual faction since Vanilla. You would know this, if you didn’t spend your time crying.
This is just an ad hominem that can be ignored. THat’s pretty much the entirety of you and Laxxus post.
THEY DONT AGREE WITH ME!? I AM RIGHT THOUGH!
ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON A HORDE TOON! THEY HATE THE ALLIANCE!
THEY’RE A BLOOD ELF PLAYER!
Yadda yadda yadda.
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Somehow make us attractive enough that we entice faction-swapping by end-game participants. This means actively punishing players that dog-pile an already overpopulated faction to make the problem worse.
You, honestly, can’t just “fix” the alliance. Not anymore, though actually spending time developing us into a faction that the dev team itself finds fun enough to actually play would be a great start.
And that doesn’t necessarily mean making us “edgier” or “darker”. Just figuring out who and what we are would be more than we currently have. The alliance have been a totally unified front since Vanilla. Meanwhile the Horde have been able to go introspective about who and what they are twice now.
By comparison, the Alliance has had it’s first disagreement EVER just this expansion when Tyrande and Genn decided to send troops to Darkshore. Fifteen years and this is the first time alliance leadership has ever had a disagreement in WoW.
As a faction, from the story perspective, we are under-written. Severely under-written.
It wouldn’t fix the problem to stop under-writing us, but it would be a step in the right direction.
What we’re missing, and will always miss now is a healthy community of any kind for end-game content. And there’s no way for the devs to fix it the way the game is currently designed. The game directly supports and encourages concentration of population. All MMOs do.
And there’s nothing that we can do about it. So anyone saying that “The alliance just needs to stop being lazy!” can stuff it. It’s not a problem we can solve short of taking up a collection and literally bribing raiding guilds with cash, which is never going to happen (and should never happen).
Only the devs can fix that, and it must come at the expense of the Horde because population transference in a game like this are zero sum.
The only way to fix the alliance properly is to change how grouping, raiding, and M+ dungeons work so that they thrive on balance rather than dog-piling one faction. And the problem is that kind of fix is more likely to lose subs than it is to fix the problem because people are selfish.
The truth is that there is no way to “fix” the alliance. We’re broken. The devs broke us by favoring the Horde and there’s no way to put us back together again.
WoW is dying and the alliance is the first casualty.
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Only by people like you.
…and the devs for some godforsaken reason.
Just like everything that you post. You. Contribute. Nothing.
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People like me? Which is?
Do you know what ad hominem means? Or are you just parroting things because you’re so upset I don’t agree with you?
I am leaning towards the latter because you’re so pissed off about a matter which only a minority enjoy. 
Continue contributing to the Alliance stereotype.
That’s basically it right there. Combine it with the majority of many expansions focusing around what Horde leaders are doing and how the other Horde leaders will react to it. You just have to ask, the Alliance? Who are they? They are like the Horde’s sidekick that comes to help out after they got their house burnt down by them.
You can’t even relate to the Alliance because they don’t even make sense.
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The Alliance is in a position where they play the reactionary group because people want them to be the heroes.
Heroes aren’t pro-active. They are reactive.
I disagree, however, with the notion that the game revolves around the Horde as it tends to go back and forth. Much of Legion was very much alliance centric with its focus on alliance characters. Same for MoP.
Everyone gets the same slice of pie but they get different slices.