The Eternal Palace hall of fame shows the damage Blizzard has done

Except they don’t, because the numbers of Alliance/Horde are pretty even.

And yet watching Mythic+ invitational and arena champs they all play Alliance for shadowmeld.

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I’ve always read Akston as kind of like Calvin’s dad. When Calvin pops into the living room and makes a relatively outlandish claim, Calvin’s dad gently moves his book down and usually engages Calvin in a question - asking why Calvin said that.

That’s akston. He usually likes to get the reason why someone is saying what they’re saying. I don’t think he’s mean. He’s just tenacious af but not personal. He’s a good person to have to argue with, I think, because I don’t see him getting personal.

I mean the aforementioned text with respect!

Of course, this is my opinion in response to yours and I understand mine is subjective. I don’t mean any offense by this.

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the flat numbers may be fairly close, but like i mentioned in either this post or another- a good bit of that inflated alliance number are alts and VERY casual players that have no interest in raiding or pvp. that’s the numbers they need to focus and balance.

And what are you trying to prove here?

And how do you suggest that there is a fix of balance with participation numbers between the Horde and the Alliance when it isn’t Blizzards choice if people don’t want to participate in any content?

I deleted all my alliance characters to make Zandalari.

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All this shows is that people that play Horde are more interested in cutting edge, end game content.

Alliance has the numbers … they just don’t have a population that wants to do anything more than RP and casual content … unless you bribe them with welfare gear a la the Warmode debacle.

It’s not a population balance issue, it’s a player issue in that each faction draws a certain type of player. If Alliance wants to be more appealing to top guilds and players who want to raid then start showing up and doing the content.

It’s just more “Someone make the Alliance a better faction so I don’t feel bad for choosing it” qq.

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and we’re not…? there are players doing everything like you suggested to no avail; i play with wm on regardless on those bonuses. is it “attracting” more alliance like you suggest? hell no. it’s still an ridiculous uphill battle.

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i answered this already:

If you don’t know for most of the games life Alliance outnumbered Horde, you haven’t been paying attention.

Where was all the we earlier in BFA when Alliance got the nice do buffs and gear drops because of the imbalance? All I heard was praise from Alliance players and seen many people faction change to take advantage of it.

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And how do you suggest to do that? You see, people are rolling both factions, regardless. But people are chosing to whether participate in current content or not.

In total, everything content wise is pretty even between both factions, but you can’t just do something to one faction that has less participation numbers and then make the other faction deal with the same BS.

My previous statement stands. You’re speaking your opinion. And anyone who swapped to Alliance and stayed for WM bonuses aren’t really smart. Or really worth mentioning.

Given that there are roughly equal numbers of Alliance players as Horde, they just don’t do things like raiding, here’s a crazy idea:

What if Blizzard started encouraging people to do raiding, again? Instead of discouraging it like they’ve been doing the last few expansions.

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Raiding scene for Alliance has tremendously dropped off of what it was during Legion. I don’t know if it’s the difficulty of raiding. I don’t know if it’s the free loot pinata from WQ and dailies. I really don’t know what it is.

However, to deny that there’s no where near as many raiding groups as there were in Legion, is tomfoolery. That’s, the biggest issue. Not the 1% of Mythic raiders. Yeah, it doesn’t look good 200+ Horde finished CoS while only 46(?) Alliance finished it. That’s its own issue but the general population pool for higher Mythic+ and general raiding, has diminished since Legion.

People go where the easiest access to the best loot is if that is what they are after. For a long time now Horde has been the favor, this even goes back to MoP as the go to place for PvP, and raid clearing guilds.

When for years and years now the Horde player base has out numbered the Alliance player base. I don’t know why anyone would really be surprised that more Horde raid teams are clearing over Alliance. Also as each year passes less and less people actually care about end game raiding. There is other places now to get gear and bragging rights from, its not all about the raiding anymore.

Aw comeon Club Camel, you can do it!

:dromedary_camel:

and, like your previous question, i answered this in that same post earlier:

you really should try reading everything someone writes before trying to criticise someone.

with blizzard basically giving gear away right now in the forms of “warfronts” and WQ caches, the casual vs endgame player numbers is showing exactly that. even m+ is more appealing to those looking to gear up- you get higher ilvl gear for less effort and time.

with this current meta, long gone are the days of raiding to gain gear and feel accomplished. now you can just do 4 WQs… or buy a mythic carry.

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Maybe you should read the post before trying to accuse someone of criticising someone. Here, let me quote my own post again:

People just like to play Horde. That doesn’t mean that the Alliance is somehow less capable of raiding.