But I don’t want the bribe increased. Not because I am an evil Hordie and I want to keep the Alliance down. But because the original warmode bribe was insulting.
There has to be a better way than implementing something that ruins the game.
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And there has to be a better way then always having imbalanced server firsts. Ultimately compromises will have to happen and racials need to be a thing of the past as far as I’m cocerned.
You keep getting hung up on racials, when right now…racials aren’t the issue.
Delete racials for all I care. Guess what? The imbalance remains.
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Not up to me to find it. You made the claim. If you’re lazy and don’t want to provide anything concrete to progress the conversation then that’s on you.
No I said…
Saying that I’d argue that it’s not means that there’s a place for me to be wrong on the subject matter. Reading is hard I guess.
But again it didn’t stop Horde from pushing rating. There was a split. If we’re going to talk about the top 1% of the PvP population then of course it’s going to look skewered to one side. That’s like me opening up Raider.IO and seeing only rogues and then assuming that if you’re not a rogue then you don’t get to clear high keys. Which is inaccurate.
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boohoo the Alliance need to try harder.
/shrug
Yep they sure do.
Racials were the root cause of the imbalance. Specifically the high level guild need for any edge possible. Remove the racial and add incentives for the high level guilds to go to the lower pop faction and watch as the rest follow. It happens time and time again.
I’ll remember this when we end up with an over power racial and the inverse happens to you guys.
I gave you the information, you’re too lazy to find what most other players here already know and can acknowledge. It’s not my fault you want to make false claims and when proven wrong, refuse to acknowledge what everyone else here does.
Oh my bad, I missread. Yeah, you’re definitely wrong.
It was way more than 1%, but It’s okay if you never paid attention to rated PvP for 13 years.
Not even close. It’d be like seeing a race that can use 3 trinkets all over page after page of rankings and assuming It’d be good to play that race. Trying to downplay how overpowered the racial was is kinda silly. It’s fine if you’ve never done rated PvP and don’t know how vital being able to get out of any CC is, but let’s not pretend it wasn’t insanely broken. Trying to compare PvE to PvP is just silly.
Racials initially caused it, yes. But current racials are not the reason the imbalance exists.
Remove racials and no one cares. They will stay Horde because thats where the recruit-able playerbase is.
Alliance racials are basically on par with Horde at this point. And Alliance racials destroy Horde in m+.
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Anyway, as to the OP.
From an observer’s point of view, this is troubling. The barriers needed to enter raiding are not the Blizzard-made barriers, but rather player-made barriers. Coupled with hundreds of 100-0’s mechanics in a difficulty that doesn’t need it (if an idea of mine is to be considered), a toxic speedrun mentality, and the WoW equivalent of saying a 20 year old needs 20 years of experience in a job, it puts a lot of people off.
Raiding and casual play are either too hard, too frustrating, or not advertised enough, or any mixture of the three. This was basically how Wildstar died. I advocated for this death to be avoided both in the past and on a regular basis.
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Unless you’re an oceanic player.
Remember away.
I don’t hold grudges over computer games.
They aren’t real.
Yes. I am well aware how badly you want WoW to die.
No, and I’ll give you 2 reasons why, even though you’ll ignore them:
- Even way back, when Horde racials were terrible (like when Berserking gave a bonus based on how close to death you were, and when Alliance players used to come and laugh on the forums about how Horde had the most useless racials in the game), Horde was doing quite well in high-end raiding.
- The Alliance conspiracy theory is that Alliance players went to the less-populated faction because of better racials. Currently the Alliance is the less-populated faction and has better racials. So according to the conspiracy theory, if people will go to the less-populated faction for better racials, people should be moving to the Alliance, right now.
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Hence why you remove racials and add a new incentive for moving to the under populated side.
Even the person I am replying to says Alliance/Horde racials are in relative balance. Make up your minds.
Because they have always been and will continue to be a problem. And I’m not even saying remove them. Just make so both sides have a racial that is equal to each other with different flavor.
You’re that weird guy that has a notepad with everyone’s names written in it and post it notes all over the wall with quotes of people you don’t like aren’t you?
Let me put it this way.
I like this game. If it dies, I have to go to FF14. I am trying out the other gearing paths and I am at 420 and having a better time than last we argued back in BOD over you calling me a troll and standing by it.
Here is my question to Alliance players…
To break it down…
My guild was Alliance… and my guild, like multiple other Alliance guilds, were doing progression raiding.
Of course… rosters need to be filled and maintained… and so we would recruit…
Alliance-side my experience was the vast number of players didn’t want to raid, or didn’t want to put forth the work, or, more often than not, simply could not improve themselves for one reason or another.
My guild attempted recruiting for months and months before we gave up.
And I’ve heard that story repeated by multiiple guilds.
The overall faction player population numbers are fairly balanced.
Racials, as they are, only really affect the play of the top 5% in squeezing out those last few performance numbers.
The problem is the players.
And, funny enough, it seems like, way too often, the people squealing that Blizz “needs to do something” about the disparity… They aren’t raiding. They aren’t pushing content.
They’re not doing anything.
They’re just crying about what they perceive as Horde bias when the fact of the matter is that -they- as players are among the problem and can be part of the solution.
Not everyone raiding Horde-side is there because they want to play Horde.
They’re there because they want to raid and they want to push keys… and that’s where players are that want to do that.
You want serious raiders and key-runners to play Alliance…than be part of creating the environment to bring them back.
So… my question is…
If you are so discontent with this disparity… what are you doing as a player to change it?
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But why remove racials when racials are not currently the problem?
Or maybe I just don’t have a bad memory? Look at his posting summary. I am the number 1 person he has responded to.
Yes. You got extremely mad that 7 months earlier I called you out for trolling, and I stood by my statement that 7 months earlier you were trolling. Because 7 months earlier you were.
You saying “that one QnA at that one time” isn’t anything concrete. If you think it is then you’re welcome to believe it as I wipe a tear away from laughing so hard.
Read the above.
I have.
Never downplayed its viability.
I’ve been higher rated than you in multiple seasons. A quick check of the armory would save you from looking foolish. Sincerely hope you have an alt. Because otherwise you just embarrassed yourself.
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Dude that is because you reply to literally every topic on the forums… you NEVER leave.
You are ALWAYS here.
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