well its 2 ally guilds now op. happy?
Give racials that are good at pressing different advantages, where both advantages are very important in at least one stonewall fight each. Right now almost every raid fight in the entire xpac – including all (100%) of the difficult ones – have a crucial burst phase that favor on-demand DPS racials, and Horde have the market cornered on it. Alliance mostly get a pack of mediocre defensives/cleanses that are strong in casual/overworld content but inapplicable to (if not specifically resisted by) raid effects.
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How are Alliance racials mediocre?
You have a remove stun, a remove root, a “don’t get interrupted when spell casting,” a stealth that becomes pretty mandatory for M+ runs … the only Horde racial I ever had linked to a bar was the mini-lust for trolls. That’s it. The rest are easily ignored and not game breaking at all.
Alliance has the numbers. They just don’t call to a player that cares about being good at end content. They’re too busy RP’ing their Void Elves as High Elves and qq’ing how they want their faction to be better represented in raid stats but want someone else to fix the issue for them.
If I were a new player trying to pick a faction, the victim mentality and the “do it for me so I don’t have to do it myself” lamenting from Alliance players would make me run to the red team post haste.
Whenever this conversation comes up, it quickly boils down to “Horde had OP racials in the past that’s why all the serious raiders are Horde!” and the the inevitable spiral into bias talk that don’t matter.
What really matters, is that whatever reason for how things started the end result is now the lack of Alliance raiders is self fulling prophecy. If you want to raid seriously, you’re smarter going Horde simply for the bigger size pool of other players.
There is no logical way Blizzard can do anything about it because it’s purely a player made issue at this point. The only thing they can do is allow cross-faction play and hope for the best.
And I say this as a guy who has pretty much lost his entire raid group multiple times over the last few years because when recruitment dried up the remaining raiders either quit or faction swapped Horde for a larger player pool.
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Neither are Club Camel so no 
They had no problem fixing it when the horde needed help and it WORKED.
The problem is that they don’t care about the Alliance enough to do the same thing that helped the horde.
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Only one US guild has cleared it so I guess…Blizz, buff US players plz.
Makes about as much sense.
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Blizzard cannot control who wants to play what side, and what those players want to do with their in game time.
They can’t force Alliance players to raid in hardcore guilds and clear mythic as fast as they possibly can.
You are blaming Blizzard for player’s choices.
and which of these alliance racials, besides shadowmeld, is actually useful in M+ and/or raids? asking for a friend…
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People say this every time it’s brought up with no backup or reasoning.
Do we need to come up with contrived reason for conflict #3546785? Or can we finally reflect in game, what has happened in the lore.
The heroes of Azeroth are constantly teaming up for the greater good, but we can’t ever group up in game because REASONS.
Soon the argument is going to be that WoW is like overwatch, and everything that happens in game is non-canon.
Allowing for cross faction PvE is the best cure for a player made issue. It doesn’t harm or hinder anyone, and it would be AMAZING for RP realms.
The same could be applied to you. Looking through your posts, you do not even provide any kind of evidence. You just expect someone to give it to you.
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Because a bull rush or a buff removal that doesn’t affect a raid boss or Dungeon boss is useful?
Are you really holding to the Horde racials being better? 2008 called: it wants its argument back.
That hasn’t worked on anything in a raid since Vectis’s Gestate (which was so short and did so little damage nobody cared to begin with).
To my knowledge, the only things this has worked on all xpac are the slow from Zek’s adds and the immobilize from Sivara’s inversion, neither of which are a problem if you position properly.
I’ll be sure to take full advantage of this when my clothie void elf is tanking the raid boss that melees for 400k.
This is actually good in M+. The only use in raids though is if you’re skipping Za’qul’s trash, exactly one night elf accidentally butt pulls something, and notices right away.
We were playing with it for juking Queen’s Court charge without soaking. I don’t remember if it ended up working, but I haven’t seen anyone try in several weeks now so I assume it doesn’t work.
…Says the blood elf? You know what an AOE purge does, right? That freed up entire class requirements for Zul (Alliance was forced to run 2 priests no matter how small the raid was) and basically neutered Mythic Conclave’s raptors.
Hell, even the goblin jump is more valuable in a raid than basically every Alliance racial combined. Some classes like priests still have terrible mobility and can use a quick getaway or reposition with no setup and minimal downtime for turret casting. Even the DI racial (which is also great in M+) is of minimal use in raids because you have so many dispels already.
And even with a small handful of racials that are good in M+, they’re typically dominated at the high levels by Horde anyway. There’s a small handful of unique Alliance teams in the top 100 runs – and most of them are wearing a good bit of Mythic raid gear, because it turns out when everyone’s already rocking out and playing perfectly, having access to an extra rerollable drop table that starts at 15 above the chests you’re looting tends to help.
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God damn, you made me spit out my drink 
Honestly though the issue is mostly player created at this point, it’s hardly a question of racials anymore, (That doesn’t mean there aren’t any stand out racials!) it’s weather or not you wanna be on the faction that has most of the raider population.
Letting players choose their faction regardless of race would remove this problem so quickly.
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i never said they are… they WERE. and only horde racials have ever been offensively useful.
This post was both savage but completely true and I’m 100% here for it.
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