Blood elves should have Joined the alliance. Orcs decimated their forest in the first war. They’ve been at war with trolls since they founded their nation. And the undead literally brought them near extinction. There is absolutely 0% chance they would have ever joined that faction. Overall shadowlands made more sense than blood elf’s going horde. You want the end of the high elf for the alliance thread. Blizzard stop doubling down or giving half baked solutions. It was bad writing, own it, fix it, so maybe we can all move on.
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Blizz just needed a pretty race in the Horde.
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They did. The old Alliance. It died off and the new one claimed it didn’t have the resources to help.
Under possession of demon blood.
Wrong Trolls.
Do the starting quests. This take is old and uninformed.
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There is no debate. Only Helf fanatics have meltdowns over this.
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Correct. And the outcome from that is still an issue 18 years later.
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Honestly I’d be happy if both Blood Elves and Void Elves got more cosmetics options at the barber at this point.
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So what’s wrong with the non-void corrupted skins for the void elves, again? I feel like they have more high elf customization than void customization.
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I’ve done it. It was blizzard craming lore because reasons. Literally none of it made sense.
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So it doesn’t make sense to you for them to join their actual former allies, the Forsaken of Lordaeron, lead by their former Ranger General?
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The undead brought them near extinction. PTSD is a thing. Scourge or undead. They would have never saw them as anything but monsters.
The blood elves’ natural home was always the Alliance. Forcing them into the Horde contradicted lore, diluted faction identity, shortchanged Alliance players, and destabilized balance long-term. Blizzard’s decision was not a creative choice but a population-management tactic—and it remains one of the worst faction design mistakes in WoW’s history. Blizzard admitted the move was to balance player populations, since Alliance had more “pretty races.” Bad writing is bad writing. Sorry not sorry?
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I find your human ret logic very amusing.
Why?
So did the Alliance.
Other Trolls. Not the ones in the Horde.
Under the command of an Alliance Prince.
I like how you left out the part where what was left of the Lordaeron Alliance condemned them to death. What was left of them. Execute them to extinction.
Or the part where the nelfs and the Alliance tried to sabotage them when they reclaimed their city and surrounding lands. And the Forsaken were the only ones who came to assist them.
So I don’t see what needs fixing here. If the helfers can’t deal with their current options, which are very generous, in my opinion. Then who cares?
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They had broken free from the Scourge. The story doesn’t make sense if you don’t pay attention to the details.
It was not. They had a temporary Alliance with the old Alliance because of Anduin Lothar. Being with the Forsaken who are the citizens of that Alliance put them closer to that actual home. They had nothing to do with the Alliance of Stormwind.
Negative.
Alliance were the dominant faction at the time.
The Paladin thing balanced things.
So it didn’t short-change you. Nice to know.
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Garithos was one racist commander, not “the Alliance” as a whole. Stormwind, Ironforge, and Darnassus never signed off on exterminating the blood elves. If we’re going to condemn an entire faction for the actions of a single bad leader, then the orcs should’ve abandoned the Horde the moment Gul’dan betrayed them. That logic doesn’t hold.
The night elves weren’t “sabotaging” Silvermoon either—they were enforcing their ancient ban on arcane magic. It was a cultural clash, not proof the Alliance rejected the blood elves as a people. Ironically, that very conflict was later resolved when kaldorei and sin’dorei fought side by side again in Legion.
As for the Forsaken, their “help” was self-serving. Sylvanas was never some altruistic savior—she was consolidating power in the Eastern Kingdoms. If the blood elves honestly thought trusting the Forsaken was safer than maintaining ties with their centuries-long allies, that says more about Blizzard’s need to shoehorn them into the Horde than it does about the lore.
At the end of the day, their culture, history, and very identity scream Alliance. Their move to the Horde was never about narrative inevitability—it was about Blizzard needing to bribe players into rolling Horde with a “pretty race.” That’s not storytelling, that’s marketing.
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Nah
It doesnt.
Its just a handful of the same people always crying about high elves
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Garithos and his men were what was left of that old Alliance. The rest were killed off.
Darnassus was not even Alliance at that point. Night Elves were their own thing.
They destroyed Sanctums in Quel’thalas.
Never gonna pretend that Sylvanas wasn’t conniving, but it does make better sense for Blood Elves (who also weren’t angels btw) to join up with their former Ranger General.
Blood Elves were power vampires and the Alliance were repulsed by that. Their identity did not fit the Alliance.
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Indeed. Nobody played monstrous, ugly Horde in Vanilla, so Blizzard gave them pretty Barbie dolls as a welfare system.
Vanilla Horde players hated Belves because they were fans of the ugly, monstrous Horde, so they hated sissy, weak elves. Even Blizzard made fun of Belves with the “males” acting like girlies and Garrosh saying “even a Blood Elf can wield a sword.”
Now Belves are hailed as these saviors of the Horde only for two reasons 1) all the Millennials who grew up with TBC and Wrath have overtaken online discourse and replaced the Vanilla fans so they love the Belves. 2) The modern Horde has been gutted so much that now their only hope of spotlight are the sissy Barbie elves. The truth becomes apparent: 90% of the Horde playerbase is there only because they want the pretty dolls. They don’t even want the “men,” probably less than 10% of Belf players play that option. 
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There is no debate the High Elves/Blood Elves have been Horde since Burning Crusade and the Alliance people that still complain about this after getting Void Elves with most of our customizations so they can play bargain bin Blood Elf/High Elf on Alliance side are weirdos.
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That was the old Horde.
Only the Amani trolls, not the Darkspear.
Arthas’ undead that were controlled by him.
The Forsaken lead by Sylvanas did not, or at least not by their own will.
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Claiming that Garithos and his men were all that remained of the Alliance is misleading. Stormwind, Ironforge, and Darnassus were still active at the time, and Garithos was simply a failed commander, not the voice of the Alliance. The blood elves never even tried to reach out to these major Alliance powers before turning to Illidan, Kael’thas, and later Sylvanas—making their “Horde alignment” feel more like a gameplay convenience than a natural narrative development. As for the night elves destroying Silvermoon sanctums, that was a cultural conflict over the ancient ban on arcane magic, not proof of Alliance-wide hostility. By Legion, blood elves and night elves were cooperating again, showing the clash was temporary and not an irreconcilable ideological split.
The Forsaken’s aid was never a long-term logical fit. Sylvanas’ history with Quel’thalas was opportunistic; the Forsaken have repeatedly exploited allies, and blood elves joining them wasn’t a bond of shared values but of convenience. Dismissing blood elves as “power vampires” to justify their Horde membership overlooks their centuries-long integration with humans, dwarves, and the broader Alliance, as well as their cultural and aesthetic alignment with high-fantasy, Alliance-style societies. If mana addiction were enough to exile them, then the night elves’ obsession with arcane power in the War of the Ancients should have disqualified them too—yet they were reintegrated.
At the end of the day, arguments about Garithos, sanctums, or Sylvanas all deal with short-term circumstances. None of them erase the fact that blood elves’ history, culture, and identity align with the Alliance. Their shift to the Horde was never a narrative inevitability—it was Blizzard needing to boost Horde population with a “pretty race.”
The debated ended when Blizzard gave high elf customizations to blood and void elves.
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