The Enchanting/JC Change is Good

Now you must be an enchanter or JC to benefit from enchanter/jc unique enchants/gems. No making 100 gems stockpile and dropping jc for another profession. Have to stay JC

These are good changes.

Now come on blizz, fix drums. You can do it. We believe in you. it may just be difficult to hear us with your tinnitus

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I’m down with this. Yea…amazes me how badly they did drums.

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It is a good change. Sadly, they’re still really out of touch with other elements of the game. Drums is a big mistake. And using old boss health values, another terrible decision. It’s strange how they can be smart about some things, but incredibly wrong about others.

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I can understand why they don’t remove the LW requirement from Drums. What I don’t understand is why they don’t double the duration to 1 minute. Having 10 LWorkers in raid is a lot easier to manage than 20.

There’s no way they leave drums as is, I think they’re just being reaaallly careful on the next proposed idea since the first proposal was so hated

I think there’s a very high chance of them leaving it as is. They tried to sell it to us as “great memories of stacking drums” like we’d all just fall in line after that explanation

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Kinda ~meh~

On one hand, it’s … “philosophically consistent” … with how profession bonuses should work.
On the other hand, if you’re nerdmax’ing to the point that you need to re-learn Enchanting/Jewelcrafting every time you get a ‘BIS’ upgrade, well… those of us who make bank via the AH will thank you for your compulsory need to parse +0.02%.

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The same post that the enchanting/JC change is discussed also indicated that the first raid iteration didn’t have their nerf revert applied to it so we’ll have to see what happens when they do round 2 of the raid testing. I hope they get it right

Drums can be fixed with one of three options.

  1. Remove Profession Requirements.
  2. Add a tinnitus debuff.
    OR
  3. Make drums a trinket that provides an aura to party members that provides a smaller haste benefit constantly. That way only one member of the group will need to be a leatherworker, but they will have to choose between that and other personal trinkets.

The fact that they are changing Jewelcrafting and Enchanting, regardless if what the original intent was, without changing Leatherworking drums is stupid. Literally nobody complained about the state of ring enchants or JC specific gems, but EVERYONE has had problems with the way drums work.

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Or make them hit the entire raid vs just groups. Take away the stupid range they have in place now

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It’s already been alleged (I know the tweet says he talks to blizz itself, but I don’t have an offical blizz statement) that the beta is currently NOT using the intended prepatch values. Non issue now until further testing with the prenerfs.

How recent is this change? I ask because TBC ring enchants have been bound to the enchanting profession since… always. In other words, I didn’t think this was new information. Just making sure I didn’t miss anything:)

Nah. They worded their first proposal as their current thinking, that implies they’re still thinking about it

You had to have the profession to apply the enchant/make the gem, but you didn’t have to have the profession for the effect to work. That’s why you could level enchanting, enchant your ring, and then drop enchanting and level another profession. You’d still get the benefits of the enchant :frowning:

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Eh I don’t like it.

Sure you stop some psycos from stressing out and doing it for every ring they get but I always thought it was something cool to do on your super bis toon as like the final cherry on top when your character was completed.

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I’ve seen plenty of complaints about needing to level enchanting just for ring enchants. Good change imho

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Oh anyone who had any pserver hc raiding experience complained for sure

According to you. I’d rather they left it alone.

My bad! Thanks for the reminder.

I support this change, partly because my characters’ professions are part of their “identity” if you will, to whatever extent “role-playing” is actually part of this MMORPG

It should be a personal buff only, even if it’s buffed or nerfed a little. just as I can’t benefit from someone with JC or enchanting.
Keep it consistent

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