The elemental shaman rework feels pointless

So I should go through 400 posts thread just to find your reply… so you can see what you did. Do it yourself

Nah. This is way more entertaining than finding out whatever thing I said that lives rent free in your brain. I also feel like if other people saw whatever I said that caused you to have this meltdown, other people would meme on you for getting mad about nothing.

Ah so now you are trying to turn it this way. Nice try but you know inside you kept defending this rework before 11.0.5 got released so you asked me to post it. You know you did it.

You are the meme now. You tried to convince people it will be great and now you are sitting down with the calculator checking how much is the spec nerfed. Nice try again.

You made yourself a fool not me.

I mean the rework is good. Blizzard is just going to ruined it tomorrow because they hate fun and don’t understand how this game work.

xD

Did you sprinke some bath salts instead of sugar on your cornflakes? Nobody in his right mind thought it will stay like this. You have to be really naive to think it would stay in 11.0.5 release state.

I play this game long enough to know that Ascendance looked too good to be real and that cut in sustain damage will hurt and that’s what I posted but you pretended it’s all good.

It seems you are new to this game and have to understand that when you read some patch notes or reworks then there will be some tuning. If you are overtuned to that level then huge nerf hammer happens. Small changes are usually better because less nerfs you will get.

I mean during PTR everyone was saying we’re gonna get nerfed/adjusted. IDK what you’re talking about, everyone knew that. I think you’re just frustrated by this as much as we are combined with the fact its a playstyle you weren’t a fan of already and emotionally working it out.

And that post is where?

Yes because such burst windows don’t work on Elemental as it’s not Mage or Moonkin. We have no tools to create guaranteed goes and if we have such overtuned CD then we get nerfed to oblivion. I play this game long enough to understand what will happen next. In fact even now Elemental sustain damage and pressure dropped from 600 k sustain dps in 3v3 to 450 k sustain dps. Ele isn’t even op now if you play into people who press their CDs on time and avoid damage. It’s obvious it will be crap once this burst window is gone.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/1105-elemental-rework-is-still-disappointing/1968902

But you firstly need to understand Elemental damage and playstyle to understand how bad this rework for overall Elemental performance is. All you know though is siming some raid bosses.

Yeah don’t care about PvP. So I can’t speak on it.

Ended up being nerf in PvE too. So you got both ends nerfed because it’s obvious that such Ascendance window will get nerfed into oblivion.

I don’t believe that 7 days of being broken was worth the rework.

They 100% nerfed/are nerfing it because of how it was performing on PvE. I don’t there was ever a single instance where PvP was thought of when determining the nerfs and hotfixes.

It was nerfed because of such videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHvHc9tNIHc&ab_channel=Venruki

Sure they nerfed it because one girl did golden logs on one boss. Nice copium

Then why Mages weren’t nerfed pre-11.0.5 xD

This is funniest thing I’ve ever read.

“Guys stop going after Tettles! It’s Venruki’s fault”

Man you just made my morning.

You really think that you and your random top 400 NA guild is bigger than Venruki. Guy literally works for Blizzard. I’m pretty sure that more devs are following him than you.

Just check what was nerfed and you will know.

This is just as stupid as the Ele players who unironically think it was Tettles fault that Ele got nerfed. This is actually hilarious. You unironically think this nerf is because of PvP.

Because it is. PvP is a clown fiesta after this patch and these nerfs are justified. The issue isn’t nerf because it’s right thing to do when you release such garbage. The problem is why this stupid rework happened first.

PvE wise it’s Farseer actually getting more buffs than Stormbringer nerfs. What is getting nerfed is Echo Chamber, Ascendance and Preeminence.

On top of it you have another PvP nerf to Ascendance. Ascendance in the current form is stupid and shouldn’t be in the game.

https://imgur.com/a/3lw44vu

This is literally an average death log. You press Earth Shock once at 50% hp and someone is dead because DRE procced.

My issue is that this rework broke the game and ended making Elemental worse than it was. It was stupid from the start.

P.S.:

If you think they never tune because of PvP then why was Phantom Pain fixed next day after patch release. Nice copium…

Anyway thanks for “amazing” 20th anniversary. You must be proud.

It is but Stormbringer will still be vastly ahead in PvE. And right now PvE Farseer gains more from the Ascendance bug that Stormbringer does so once that fix is in the gulf between the two will be bigger. And current PvE Farseer is playing Echo Chamber, Ascendance, and Preeminence so…they’re quite literally getting nerfed too.

Blizzard shipped a bad product and didn’t not test it. They did not heed any player (PvP or PvE) feedback about the specs. And upon releasing have been doing mickey mouse tuning instead of proper tuning. It’s not the rework’s fault. And I’m going to say this again: It was reworked largely for PvE, and it was nerfed because of what it was doing in PvE. If it was the case they did only did this for PvP, then this spec would have been left alone and all adjustments would have been shoved into the PvP balance section.

Nobody is but hopefully you cope with it. Anyways:

This proves my point why is Farseer nerfed harder? Because it’s the spec you play in PvP… You still don’t get it. PvE nerfs even though make the spec worse than it was are still mild.

The only way Farseer is being nerfed harder than Stormbringer is because a bug that is causing Ascendance to not function normally and the manner by which the bug works happens to be a stronger gain for Farseer…Literally nothing to do with PvP. Every direct nerf that affect Farseer also affects Stormbringer. Because it’s largely PvE focused. Because PvP is dead content and they tune the game around PvE. And if they actually paid attention to Venruki as much as you believe they do, PvP would probably be in a better spot than it is.

Nice copium. So are you trying to tell me that Farseer is nerfed because there is a bug and they will keep the bug instead of fixing it that’s why they nerfed Ascendance. I’ve never seen such made up expanation ever. You should get some sort of reward.

And that’s why there is AWC every season for both regions and that’s why they introduced Blitz. Truely dead content. Nice one. Another copium.

Dude slow down with these bath saltes really.

Are you actually stupid? Where did you get that they’re bug fixing it to nerf Farseer specifically? They’re going to all these nerfs AND bug fix it. Because thats what they do all the time. Both Hero talents benefit from the bug. Its an unintentional damage increase for both hero talents. Farseer just loses more from it than Stormbringer but Stormbringer loses damage from it getting fixed too.