The easiest spec to play in the game shouldn’t also get to do close to the most damage

Anyone can get carried my guy. Probably why you don’t log.
And that’s after the 5 or 6 untimed runs

You literally tried to claim you timed 20s easily last season. 4 isn’t exactly a high amount.

Because it is.

Thanks for confirming yiu can’t read. I never had a problem with the damage BM was doing.

Nope. Does nothing to address any of the actual design or mechanical issues with the class or spec. It’s the lowest effort change that has no positive impact.

Mate, you don’t even know who the wowhead guide writer is…

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Anyone can. Does that mean you bought your account? Is that why you are so elitist with logs? You paid a pretty penny for them so you have to show them off to get your moneys worth?
See how presumptuous that sounds?

Oh no 5-6 untimed runs when I said I casually run :joy:
How much do you read do you actually comprehend? I want to say 5%?
Less than a month since season started and I’m not above 2.5k rating… How dare I.

It’s a biased statement from a top player that doesn’t speak for the majority that are CASUAL PLAYERS.

When the 4 set was around +11% overall damage… 30% nerf is a nice chunk. That also wasn’t directed at you. You are literally being hostile just to be hostile.

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Main note nerf DK DPs by 15% on all three spec.

It was a sarcastic “are you happy now”, because all it does is a slight damage nerf to make the people crying about bms damage get a little sigh of relief.

Like you said, no positive impacts. Probably won’t see any until prepatch for WW sadly.

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I wonder if this thread would’ve gone differently if we said BM is top 5 easiest specs.

Rather than “EASIEST”

:dracthyr_shrug:

It’s like a 4-5% dmg nerf, nothing big tbf.

But the discussion that’s been going on has nothing to do with DPS output, and more the simplicity of said spec.

It would go the same. Players complain bm is easy. Bm gets nerfed. Bm stays B/ C tier for a tier. Blizzard aura buffs bm by 5%. Blizzard says, “job well done.”

Then blizzard releases and item like raz bow, or the current 4 piece that they don’t bother to test and bm becomes one of the top specs for a few weeks. Until players complain. And it gets nerfed.

In an endless cycle.

It would be nice, if they actually spent half the effort they do for druids, priests, mages, or rogues trying to address any of bm’s issues. That have existed since Legion…

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Well like I said above.

even if BM was the worst DPS spec…

It’s still a simple spec to play lol. or “one of the simpler ones”

Nah I just have over 400 days played on rogue since wrath.

Ps I never said you bought a carry. I’m just saying you probably ran your own key and got some higher io people to carry you.

I see you’re doubling down on the excuses even though you’re an above average player :joy:

I’m a casual player. The level that you play at doesn’t change how the spec functionally works. The difference between good players is they maximize their toolkits

You still can’t read. I have never commented about the damage BM was doing because I didn’t care.

All I have said from the get go is the spec is the easiest in the game and you can’t handle that fact.

Azorthorian the guy I literally linked a video in an interview with liquid Max stating the 10.2 version of bm is the most braindead it’s ever been.

3-4% st and 4-6% mplus aoe.

According to the trueshot discord.

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I’m tired of your circular argument. It’s excuses when someone else says something, but not when you do.
It’s flexing when score is included, but not when you do it.

I guess you’ll never know because you refuse to take me on in-game lol. All you got is words on these forums.

I’ll try to use little words for you. Blizzard tried to un-prune. Hunter’s got arcane shot and kill shot. Arcane is a dps loss. Kill shot is typically a dps loss. Blizzard tried to revamp the talent trees. Hunters had more 3 cost talent nodes than several classes combined. The entire right side of the tree did not work for the first two tiers. BM makes a significant point investment to aoe. BM has almost no aoe in the st build.

Bm is supposed to be the “pet” spec. We don’t have any meaningful pet abilities. Fero pet is for lust, other than that, it’s dead. Cunning is niche for pvp. We can’t misdirect. Sentinel is an actual meme. Hunter’s mark is a meme, they tried to add in legion until everyone said it felt bad so they removed it.

The only talents that actually work buff kill command.

Add that all together and yes, outside of hitting kill command, bm has nothing.

Rather than addressing any of the issues, players would rather spam “lulz bm eazz”

It’s not my fault you can’t refute anything.

Like I said. I don’t do free carries and I have nothing to prove to a hunter struggling to time 15s.

If you want Blizzard to rework the spec so it has a little more complexity to it thats fine…

I understand.

Unfortunately, as it stands, it’s one of the simpler ones.

:dracthyr_shrug:

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That is what happens when hunter/ bm gets ignored for several expansions while other classes get reworks and development every 4 months.

And even then, I play warrior, priest, rogue, dk and if I get super bored I try shaman. None of these classes or specs are “hard.” The majority of WoW’s difficulty shifted to the encounter mechanics a long time ago.

I’ve refutted all of your claims. You just refuse to accept it and make a tangent argument each time.

How do you not see your elitist attitude is beyond me. My m+ history speaks for itself. Me thinks you just don’t want to get out done by a “mediocre” hunter.

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You haven’t refuted anything.

I have posted facts that you can’t handle and want to feel better.

No matter how many times you repeat it it’s not going to be true.

Because it’s not elitist when it’s a fact :joy:

‘Fact’ based off your own skewed definitions.

It’s okay, hide behind your keyboard.

Mate, half your facts are “quoting the wowhead guide writer” but you do not know who the wowhead guide writer is…

Is not the wowhead guide writer… If you actually googled the wowhead guide writer, you could read his post on the state of hunters.